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Maybe I'm nuts...............

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Maybe I'm nuts...............

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We have talked about almost everything you have think of in brakes.Except for...........a conversion to Air Brakes!!!!.

What do you guys know about them and what you you think??.

Sure seems like plenty of room passenger side bottom for a air tank.........
1979 Malibu drag race only car
1999 Sonoma 4.3 5 speed-Rufus
1989 Astro-Ole Yellar cancelled-still selling off parts
1985 Astro-shop van R.I.P. my friend
1994 Astro LT RWD W4.3 rod knock RIP
1982 Winnebago single rear wheel-Chevy 350 Scraped 1/28/13-broken dreams......


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Yes, you are nuts! Working on your van yet? Or are you still just reading the internet for ideas? :poke:
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1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
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LiftedAWDAstro wrote:Yes, you are nuts! Working on your van yet? Or are you still just reading the internet for ideas? :poke:
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LiftedAWDAstro wrote:Yes, you are nuts! Working on your van yet? Or are you still just reading the internet for ideas? :poke:
Well Deano ya just gotta read my latest posts........ #-o
1979 Malibu drag race only car
1999 Sonoma 4.3 5 speed-Rufus
1989 Astro-Ole Yellar cancelled-still selling off parts
1985 Astro-shop van R.I.P. my friend
1994 Astro LT RWD W4.3 rod knock RIP
1982 Winnebago single rear wheel-Chevy 350 Scraped 1/28/13-broken dreams......


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Yup your nuts. There would be no benifit to putting air brakes on. There are alot of moving parts and they don't have the feel and response time of hydrolic brakes.

We love ya thou I mean who else would think of things like this. :poke:
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AirRide air bags in the rear to fix soft stock suspension.
Onboard aircompressor to make it all work nice.
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Kidhauler wrote:Yup your nuts. There would be no benifit to putting air brakes on. There are alot of moving parts and they don't have the feel and response time of hydrolic brakes.

We love ya thou I mean who else would think of things like this. :poke:
I would have thought they where a upgrade.
1979 Malibu drag race only car
1999 Sonoma 4.3 5 speed-Rufus
1989 Astro-Ole Yellar cancelled-still selling off parts
1985 Astro-shop van R.I.P. my friend
1994 Astro LT RWD W4.3 rod knock RIP
1982 Winnebago single rear wheel-Chevy 350 Scraped 1/28/13-broken dreams......


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Post by mdmead »

I'm not expert on air brakes, but I don't see what could possibly be gained. The problem with Astro/Safari brakes is in capacity... meaning size. Adding air to the equation wouldn't improve that.

But there is always the 'cool factor', and air brakes would add that!
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Air brakes are more powerful but that is due to the size of the parts. Also you are limited to how many times you can brake by how much air you have in the tank. When the air pressure drops the spring brakes come on and you don't move. Plus air brakes need to be adjusted daily and greased regularly which most people don't do.

I drive class 1 and work on the trucks all the time. It would sound cool pulling the spring brakes on and the big puff of air when you pull up to park but the rest of it would be a pain in the butt.

Now putting it on a airbag suspension system so it hisses and sets down when you park that would be cool and probably easier.
1999 Safari Touring edition.
trailer tow pack with a 3:73 posi
Bucket bench seats, Rear heat, Rear Airconditioning.
teal green
300 000 kms
AirRide air bags in the rear to fix soft stock suspension.
Onboard aircompressor to make it all work nice.
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Really wasn't thinking about a cool factor at all.It is that larger truck's and bus's have them,so there must be something to it.The larger parts does make sense.I am working near the vacuum brake booster on the 89 Ole Yellar rust repair and the thought occurred to me what kind of upgrade I might be able to do.I never liked the hydro boost on the 94 LT.Seemed like the brakes on the 85 where better.
1979 Malibu drag race only car
1999 Sonoma 4.3 5 speed-Rufus
1989 Astro-Ole Yellar cancelled-still selling off parts
1985 Astro-shop van R.I.P. my friend
1994 Astro LT RWD W4.3 rod knock RIP
1982 Winnebago single rear wheel-Chevy 350 Scraped 1/28/13-broken dreams......


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Should have stayed with the "cool factor" Gary... :D
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Yup, Gary. You are officially Nuts ! LOL
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