Urgent help needed: Jacking for the leaf springs van fell
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:18 pm
Problem is I am in BAJA, I removed the spring before it fell and am supposed to be out of this airbnb Sunday. No idea what I am going to do as I am a good 4 hours from home so no idea on even how to tow it anywhere, San Quintin is probably the closest city if anyone knows of specific towing options. I am feeling pretty defeated but hopefully tomorrow is a new day, can you offer any suggestions on where and how to jack safely assuming I cannot figure out a tow situation, or if jacking is just a terrible idea in these circumstances. There is also a possible (slight) downhill in the direction the van fell, and wind coming off the ocean pushing it that direction as well. Oh, and while I have it in park, with 1 front wheel chocked, I do NOT HAVE a working e-brake at the moment (unrelated, but relevant to this project with jacking up a van).
Sigh. Long details below. :(
Ok, so I never liked using the hi-lift, it is probably my lack of knowledge on how to properly jack up the van, but I also realize they are dangerous. Well today while lifting the body I had it come down when the wheel was off and the spring was removed, luckily I was 10 feet away and watched it in slow motion. Holy F.
After putting the axle on a pair of jack stands (4 Ton) with the small bottle jack, I then jacked up the body with the hi-lift and hitch. I feel like I have to jack the van body high to get in there, to the point the center brake line is just about maxed out, I really am not comfortable with how high it goes, but I do have 2 inch pucks, I have felt this way with previous times working on the van. I then removed the spring, and was grabbing the new one when it fell.... Lifting this high also raised the axle slightly but I left a small gap rather than raise and adjust the stands. This is a huge mistake, never do that, even if its just an inch or so!!!
The axle knocked over and crushed 1 of my stands with the differential when it came down . The other jack stand was knocked over, and the 1 end of the axle missing a wheel was on the ground. I now have the hi-lift, 1 jack stand, and a small bottle jack. I was able to lift the axle up with the hi-lift to get the wheel back on, and then lifted the body to get the stand under the spring mount.
I decided to give it 1 more go due to my desperation (location on needing to leave). I was forced to use the small bottle jack under the axle AS SUPPORT since I had the working stand under the leaf spring holder. The van fell again, this time I had to roll backwards in a panic as I was trying to get the new spring in. F This, I need help I don't want to get hurt.
I understand the bottle jack under the axle when lifting the body was a bad idea, but I am limited here and the jack stand was being used under the spring holder. My plan for attempt #3 is to use the wheel to cath the body a is seen in the pic below, so I can use the stand on the axle, then lift again knowing it may fall again.
Really the problem is me, or using the hi-lift jack, so I think I should try and locate a bottle jack and some wood to lift the body, but am looking for your opinion, and if that is correct where exactly to jack it up etc. Locating anything may prove quite difficult here.
To give you an idea, I am an average do it yourself mechanic. I put on the lift, rebuilt the front end, replaced the manifold gasket, etc. As I have had this van for years, am at the point where I do not imagine I would pay someone to do anything instead of tackling it myself. I am competent but not an expert, as has been shown today.
This pic is of the second fall. I do currently have it back on a wheel, with the stand supporting the body, no spring of course.
Sigh. Long details below. :(
Ok, so I never liked using the hi-lift, it is probably my lack of knowledge on how to properly jack up the van, but I also realize they are dangerous. Well today while lifting the body I had it come down when the wheel was off and the spring was removed, luckily I was 10 feet away and watched it in slow motion. Holy F.
After putting the axle on a pair of jack stands (4 Ton) with the small bottle jack, I then jacked up the body with the hi-lift and hitch. I feel like I have to jack the van body high to get in there, to the point the center brake line is just about maxed out, I really am not comfortable with how high it goes, but I do have 2 inch pucks, I have felt this way with previous times working on the van. I then removed the spring, and was grabbing the new one when it fell.... Lifting this high also raised the axle slightly but I left a small gap rather than raise and adjust the stands. This is a huge mistake, never do that, even if its just an inch or so!!!
The axle knocked over and crushed 1 of my stands with the differential when it came down . The other jack stand was knocked over, and the 1 end of the axle missing a wheel was on the ground. I now have the hi-lift, 1 jack stand, and a small bottle jack. I was able to lift the axle up with the hi-lift to get the wheel back on, and then lifted the body to get the stand under the spring mount.
I decided to give it 1 more go due to my desperation (location on needing to leave). I was forced to use the small bottle jack under the axle AS SUPPORT since I had the working stand under the leaf spring holder. The van fell again, this time I had to roll backwards in a panic as I was trying to get the new spring in. F This, I need help I don't want to get hurt.
I understand the bottle jack under the axle when lifting the body was a bad idea, but I am limited here and the jack stand was being used under the spring holder. My plan for attempt #3 is to use the wheel to cath the body a is seen in the pic below, so I can use the stand on the axle, then lift again knowing it may fall again.
Really the problem is me, or using the hi-lift jack, so I think I should try and locate a bottle jack and some wood to lift the body, but am looking for your opinion, and if that is correct where exactly to jack it up etc. Locating anything may prove quite difficult here.
To give you an idea, I am an average do it yourself mechanic. I put on the lift, rebuilt the front end, replaced the manifold gasket, etc. As I have had this van for years, am at the point where I do not imagine I would pay someone to do anything instead of tackling it myself. I am competent but not an expert, as has been shown today.
This pic is of the second fall. I do currently have it back on a wheel, with the stand supporting the body, no spring of course.