oil filter...
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oil filter...
I changed my oil today, and I really wasn't thinking about the stuff I needed--1. because I'm working on a case of bronchitis and not thinking my clearest, and 2. because I usually keep a pretty good stock of oil filters and 5W-30. But when I went to bench for a new filter, I didn't have the exact one needed. My Astro is a 2003, and GM changed to a shorter filter for the late model Astros. What I did have a Fram PH3600 from my older 98 Astro that is no longer with us. So I used that. It fit perfectly, and I'm thinking this is more of an engineering change to keep oil filters from getting punched by rocks... Anyway seeing it was a piece of crap Fram I'll be changing again in 3000 miles--what a waste of good Mobil1 synthetic...
So I ask, am I fine here, or should I hit Advance in the morning for a new filter?
So I ask, am I fine here, or should I hit Advance in the morning for a new filter?
Previous Vans: 1998 Astro, AWD, 138K mi; traded on 2003 Chevy Astro, AWD, 125K mi; traded on
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Re: oil filter...
Don't waste your time or the Mobile 1. Your Fram filter will work just fine until you change your oil again.
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Re: oil filter...
With synthetic oil I change it every 5k on the Mercedes and BMWs at my work, just make sure you don`t go over that milage with that Fram oil filter.
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Re: oil filter...
ummmmm ok , whats the deal with Fram filters ?? you guys are talking like they're junk , are they ??? i get my filters from my buddy that works on forklifts with the 4.3 's in them so i don't pay a thing for them. ( no name brand with just part numbers on them ) but i do change them at every oil change . should i not be doing this ? is there a good filter that you recommend ?
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Re: oil filter...
I'm not an expert, but check this out: http://www.knizefamily.net/minimopar/oi ... rence.htmlskippy wrote:ummmmm ok , whats the deal with Fram filters ?? you guys are talking like they're junk , are they ??? ...
Previous Vans: 1998 Astro, AWD, 138K mi; traded on 2003 Chevy Astro, AWD, 125K mi; traded on
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Re: oil filter...
I like the Napa Gold series of filters. They are re-labeled Wix filter and are of excellent quality.
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1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
2013 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4
2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition
Mileage spreadsheet
Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
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Re: oil filter...
Carquest brand is also a reboxed Wix filter.
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Re: oil filter...
as per your initial question.. 'are ya okay?' .. YES... only difference is the height between the two from 1998 and 2003. wix info listed below. importantly, top diameter and thread pitch is most important.
listed for 2003:
Wix Part Number: 51040
UPC Number: 765809510401
Principal Application: Daewoo (99-02), GM Cars/Trucks (76-08), Saab (94-98)
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.404
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 18X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=15/31
Burst Pressure-PSI: 325
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19
Taller style for 1998:
Wix Part Number: 51036
UPC Number: 765809510364
Principal Application: GM Cars + Trucks (80-05), Mercruiser, Volvo-Penta
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.828
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 18X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=12/26
Burst Pressure-PSI: 325
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19
listed for 2003:
Wix Part Number: 51040
UPC Number: 765809510401
Principal Application: Daewoo (99-02), GM Cars/Trucks (76-08), Saab (94-98)
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.404
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 18X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=15/31
Burst Pressure-PSI: 325
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19
Taller style for 1998:
Wix Part Number: 51036
UPC Number: 765809510364
Principal Application: GM Cars + Trucks (80-05), Mercruiser, Volvo-Penta
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.828
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 18X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=12/26
Burst Pressure-PSI: 325
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19
Rob 
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Re: oil filter...
I always use the "long" filter for a little added oil capacity. Same thing on Carole's Hemi Magnum. With oil more is good, to a point.
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Re: oil filter...
Used Fram for years but after relocating filter to another location that was a little cooler I decided to try a longer K & N filter.


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Re: oil filter...
If anyone thinks Fram is as good as they used to be, cut open a new filter. Now cut open a Wix , or other "premium" filter...There is no comparison, in my opinion..... I was a "FRAM GUY" for years, used them on my race cars (the high performance units) without issues, so please don't think I'm "Anti" Fram or anything like that. However when I see what they're selling today, I shudder to think what could have been.
They aren't even close to what they were in the 60's-70's.

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Re: oil filter...
Joe,,you're right on the money my friend. I haven't found much around lately that compares to products of the past and I ain't what I was at one time myself.They aren't even close to what they were in the 60's-70's.
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Re: oil filter...
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K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
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JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
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K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
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