The first diesel Astro conversion??.
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The first diesel Astro conversion??.
There are a number of new members now.I thought I would bring up the age old question again.Who here is going to swap the first diesel into a Astro??.I can tell you all it won't be me,but it is a subject of common interest. :-k
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1985 Astro-"Ole Yellar"
1994 LT Astro
1981 Winnebago-"Baby"
12'dual axle enclosed trailer
The vendor trailer
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Re: The first diesel Astro conversion??.
diesel sounds intresting especially because i do long runs and intend to be towing but i know it won't be me for some reason the idea of working on a diesel frightens me (not like i really know anything about ICE's either tho), not the mention the cost and availability of parts not for me
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Jet performance tuner 91 octane preset, Jet under-drive pulleys
Rancho 999000 series shock, on-board controller to be installed later
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Zexel Torsen Diff
11" drums
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Re: The first diesel Astro conversion??.
Well, gary. I was going to say whats the point until my wife reminded me about that V8 in my van. ](*,)GEJ wrote:There are a number of new members now.I thought I would bring up the age old question again.Who here is going to swap the first diesel into a Astro??.I can tell you all it won't be me,but it is a subject of common interest. :-k
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Re: The first diesel Astro conversion??.
astro355 wrote:Well, gary. I was going to say whats the point until my wife reminded me about that V8 in my van. ](*,)GEJ wrote:There are a number of new members now.I thought I would bring up the age old question again.Who here is going to swap the first diesel into a Astro??.I can tell you all it won't be me,but it is a subject of common interest. :-k
Someone's always reminding ya about the V8's. If its not the wife, then its the family dog. Sheesh.
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Re: The first diesel Astro conversion??.
would the mileage be high enough to offset the high cost of diesel these days? down here, diesel is still more expensive than premium gas.
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Re: The first diesel Astro conversion??.
T.Low wrote:astro355 wrote:Well, gary. I was going to say whats the point until my wife reminded me about that V8 in my van. ](*,)GEJ wrote:There are a number of new members now.I thought I would bring up the age old question again.Who here is going to swap the first diesel into a Astro??.I can tell you all it won't be me,but it is a subject of common interest. :-k
Someone's always reminding ya about the V8's. If its not the wife, then its the family dog. Sheesh.
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Re: The first diesel Astro conversion??.
This would depend on which engine you used of course. There are many good reasons to run a diesel. Some of them you can tweak for more performance which usually makes them perform better on fuel...kind of backwards to a gas engine. The more you tune up a diesel, the better the fuel economy you get in just about every application...weather you are towing, racing or just cruising. Due to the nature of the fuel (more of an oil than a solvent), diesels last many times longer than gas engines.kings-x59 wrote:would the mileage be high enough to offset the high cost of diesel these days? down here, diesel is still more expensive than premium gas.
I have been running diesels for almost 30 years and they just keep building them better and better. Some of the newer ones with electronic controls are using multiple event fuel injections per power cycle to gain more power and torque. These newer diesels run alot quieter and are WAY more fuel efficient than the last generation of diesels.
At one point I had measured everything to install a GM 6.5 turbo diesel into our favorite vans. It would fit with some major mods to the heating/AC system on the firewall. The next challenge would be to install a large enough rad and intercooler. This swap would give a guy lots to fabricate, but in the end you would have a pretty hot towing machine.
If you are going just for fuel economy then I would find a smaller 4 cyclinder or even a small inline 6 cylinder turbo diesel (Izuzu, Cummins, VW). What ever diesel engine one uses I would make sure that it is turbo charged. You will not realize the fuel potential in power/torque/fuel economy without a trubo on a diesel engine.
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Re: The first diesel Astro conversion??.
I've thinking of the diesel swap for a while. I think the easiest swap fit wise at the moment would be a diesel engine from either a wrecked Jeep Liberty 2.8L CRD or Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 CRD. Ideally GM would hurry up and get their new 4.5L Duramax to market and then swap that in.
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2005 Astro (Gandalf) - AWD, 4.3L, 3.42, 130k+ miles
1997 Astro (Grumpy - $250 Rally Van) - AWD, 4.3L, 3.42, LSD, 2" lift, 31" tires, 335k+ orig engine, $30 eBay fuel pump
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Re: The first diesel Astro conversion??.
Rockwerx wrote:This would depend on which engine you used of course. There are many good reasons to run a diesel. Some of them you can tweak for more performance which usually makes them perform better on fuel...kind of backwards to a gas engine. The more you tune up a diesel, the better the fuel economy you get in just about every application...weather you are towing, racing or just cruising. Due to the nature of the fuel (more of an oil than a solvent), diesels last many times longer than gas engines.kings-x59 wrote:would the mileage be high enough to offset the high cost of diesel these days? down here, diesel is still more expensive than premium gas.
I have been running diesels for almost 30 years and they just keep building them better and better. Some of the newer ones with electronic controls are using multiple event fuel injections per power cycle to gain more power and torque. These newer diesels run alot quieter and are WAY more fuel efficient than the last generation of diesels.
At one point I had measured everything to install a GM 6.5 turbo diesel into our favorite vans. It would fit with some major mods to the heating/AC system on the firewall. The next challenge would be to install a large enough rad and intercooler. This swap would give a guy lots to fabricate, but in the end you would have a pretty hot towing machine.
If you are going just for fuel economy then I would find a smaller 4 cyclinder or even a small inline 6 cylinder turbo diesel (Izuzu, Cummins, VW). What ever diesel engine one uses I would make sure that it is turbo charged. You will not realize the fuel potential in power/torque/fuel economy without a trubo on a diesel engine.
I think Mr_Roboto who has spent tons of time looking at different turbo set-ups has said a V8 diesel would take a down stream turbo to fit it into a Astro.So as the saying goes-"build it and they will come".That is design a kit and they will buy.
Call me Gary
1985 Astro-"Ole Yellar"
1994 LT Astro
1981 Winnebago-"Baby"
12'dual axle enclosed trailer
The vendor trailer
Lead with my heart & take the hits because of it like a man.
1985 Astro-"Ole Yellar"
1994 LT Astro
1981 Winnebago-"Baby"
12'dual axle enclosed trailer
The vendor trailer
Lead with my heart & take the hits because of it like a man.
Re: The first diesel Astro conversion??.
Was it Badassbee that was working on the 6.2 install? I wonder how that one is coming along anyways.
At work right now I'm driving a turbo 6.0 Powerstroke. As much as I am not a fan of FORD I have to admit this freaking truck just hauls ass. I wonder if a Powerstroke is possible.
Best swap tho would defiantly have to be a 4BT. I've seen a few popping up around here for sale and everytime I see one it takes an amazing amount of will power to not just go run and buy it.
At work right now I'm driving a turbo 6.0 Powerstroke. As much as I am not a fan of FORD I have to admit this freaking truck just hauls ass. I wonder if a Powerstroke is possible.
Best swap tho would defiantly have to be a 4BT. I've seen a few popping up around here for sale and everytime I see one it takes an amazing amount of will power to not just go run and buy it.
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Re: The first diesel Astro conversion??.
I believe there was a thread on the Overland Van site. Possibly the owner before Dan. I will have to see if it it still there.
Harv
http://www.overlandvans.com/0104_diesel.html
Harv
http://www.overlandvans.com/0104_diesel.html
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Re: The first diesel Astro conversion??.
TheHarv wrote:I believe there was a thread on the Overland Van site. Possibly the owner before Dan. I will have to see if it it still there.
Harv
http://www.overlandvans.com/0104_diesel.html
Wow-I don't remember seeing that ref before.All along I thought the cummins was too long.Very interesting for sure.
Call me Gary
1985 Astro-"Ole Yellar"
1994 LT Astro
1981 Winnebago-"Baby"
12'dual axle enclosed trailer
The vendor trailer
Lead with my heart & take the hits because of it like a man.
1985 Astro-"Ole Yellar"
1994 LT Astro
1981 Winnebago-"Baby"
12'dual axle enclosed trailer
The vendor trailer
Lead with my heart & take the hits because of it like a man.
Re: The first diesel Astro conversion??.
I have been watching for one of those motors but having been unemployed for a while makes it not even reasonable to consider right now. #-o