Dunedog's gear swap
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Dunedog's gear swap
Today's class will be on swapping from 3.42 to 4.10 gears in a 1999 AWD Astro. Jim has so graciously donated his van (and the cash ) to do this project.
Let's start with the front diff. I had a spare one that Jim bought so I am doing it a day before he arrives.
First I started with wire brushing the outside of the diff to get most of the crud off it.
Crack the case in half and clean it out real good. I removed the pinion and bearing races to install new ones.
Here is the clamshell bearing puller I will use to get one of the bearings off the pinion. This will be important because I will need to install shims under this bearing to get the proper pinion depth. I don't have a pinion depth tool so it will be trial and error.
Of course Jim so graciously bought all new gears and install kits...
More after I get more work done. Coming up will be pressing in new pinion bearing races, pressing on the bearings and shims on the pinion and pressing new bearings on the carrier after I put the new ring gear on. Stay tuned...
Let's start with the front diff. I had a spare one that Jim bought so I am doing it a day before he arrives.
First I started with wire brushing the outside of the diff to get most of the crud off it.
Crack the case in half and clean it out real good. I removed the pinion and bearing races to install new ones.
Here is the clamshell bearing puller I will use to get one of the bearings off the pinion. This will be important because I will need to install shims under this bearing to get the proper pinion depth. I don't have a pinion depth tool so it will be trial and error.
Of course Jim so graciously bought all new gears and install kits...
More after I get more work done. Coming up will be pressing in new pinion bearing races, pressing on the bearings and shims on the pinion and pressing new bearings on the carrier after I put the new ring gear on. Stay tuned...
Current rides:
2013 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4
2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition
Mileage spreadsheet
Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
2013 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4
2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition
Mileage spreadsheet
Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
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Re: Dunedog's gear swap
I would be willing to bet Jim won't have to use his headlights on the way back home.His smile will be so big from the difference it will light up the 90 all the way all on it's own.
Call me Gary
1985 Astro-"Ole Yellar"
1994 LT Astro
1981 Winnebago-"Baby"
12'dual axle enclosed trailer
The vendor trailer
Lead with my heart & take the hits because of it like a man.
1985 Astro-"Ole Yellar"
1994 LT Astro
1981 Winnebago-"Baby"
12'dual axle enclosed trailer
The vendor trailer
Lead with my heart & take the hits because of it like a man.
Re: Dunedog's gear swap
Cool, its been awhile since we had Sunday school,lol
Keep the pics comin boys
Keep the pics comin boys
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Topic author - I have my van tatooed on my cheeks
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Re: Dunedog's gear swap
Use a brass drift to pound in the new pinion bearing races... (don't forget safety glasses)
Install the pinion with the new bearings using the original shim. Do not install the crush sleeve or seal yet...
Put some marking compound on 3 or 4 teeth on 2 sides of the ring gear. You then assemble the whole diff and torque everything down. Then spin the pinion over by hand in both directions 4 or 5 turns. You then disassemble the whole thing to check the gear pattern on the ring gear.
Install the pinion with the new bearings using the original shim. Do not install the crush sleeve or seal yet...
Put some marking compound on 3 or 4 teeth on 2 sides of the ring gear. You then assemble the whole diff and torque everything down. Then spin the pinion over by hand in both directions 4 or 5 turns. You then disassemble the whole thing to check the gear pattern on the ring gear.
Current rides:
2013 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4
2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition
Mileage spreadsheet
Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
2013 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4
2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition
Mileage spreadsheet
Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
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Topic author - I have my van tatooed on my cheeks
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Re: Dunedog's gear swap
Forgot to get pics...install the new ring gear on the carrier and use locktite on the bolts and tighten to 55 ft-#.
Here is about the 3rd or 4th test fit...The pinion has 0.034" shim and the carrier and pinion preloads are set. The carrier is set 1 notch towards the pinion from stock. This is the resulting pattern.
Tune in tomorrow as I finish up the front diff.
Here is about the 3rd or 4th test fit...The pinion has 0.034" shim and the carrier and pinion preloads are set. The carrier is set 1 notch towards the pinion from stock. This is the resulting pattern.
Tune in tomorrow as I finish up the front diff.
Current rides:
2013 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4
2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition
Mileage spreadsheet
Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
2013 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4
2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition
Mileage spreadsheet
Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
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Re: Dunedog's gear swap
Pattern looks about perfect.
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Re: Dunedog's gear swap
all this and Lynne's cookin'too, for a suitcase of Pabst's ....life is good!!!
1999 LS AWD 3" Lift,4.10's,Snowplow,9500lb Ramsey winch
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Re: Dunedog's gear swap
I am thinking the same thing! Tomorrow I will button it up and post more pics. I will include detail pics of the carrier bearing adjusters and the crush sleeves.Smiliesafari wrote:Pattern looks about perfect.
Yeah...she made Lasagna for dinner tomorrow night and she made a double batch of peanut butter cookies too!dunedog wrote: all this and Lynne's cookin'too, for a suitcase of Pabst's ....life is good!!!
Current rides:
2013 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4
2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition
Mileage spreadsheet
Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
2013 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4
2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition
Mileage spreadsheet
Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
Re: Dunedog's gear swap
MMMMM .....Lasagna & PBR!LiftedAWDAstro wrote:Yeah...she made Lasagna for dinner tomorrow night and she made a double batch of peanut butter cookies too!dunedog wrote: all this and Lynne's cookin'too, for a suitcase of Pabst's ....life is good!!!
'94 Astro AWD EXT LT - Over 211,000 ,parts van now!
DHC Rock rails
Overland Vans 4" lift kit and bumper w/grille guard
Fiamma awning
'95 Astro AWD EXT CS - Just over 99,000 miles
DHC Rock rails
Overland Vans 4" lift kit and bumper w/grille guard
Fiamma awning
'95 Astro AWD EXT CS - Just over 99,000 miles
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Re: Dunedog's gear swap
And 4:10s! You guys know how to have a good time!snapple wrote:MMMMM .....Lasagna & PBR!LiftedAWDAstro wrote:Yeah...she made Lasagna for dinner tomorrow night and she made a double batch of peanut butter cookies too!dunedog wrote: all this and Lynne's cookin'too, for a suitcase of Pabst's ....life is good!!!
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Re: Dunedog's gear swap
lifted you da man
and dunedog i can't believe it but twice in one month
You inspire me
and dunedog i can't believe it but twice in one month
You inspire me
1998 GMC Safari AWD, BFGoodrich AllTerrain T/A
Jet performance tuner 91 octane preset, Jet under-drive pulleys
Rancho 999000 series shock, on-board controller to be installed later
DHC rock rails and skid plate Add-A-Leaf
G3500 front calipers
Zexel Torsen Diff
11" drums
180 amp Alternator
Long tru-cool 4590 trans cooler
1997 gone
Jet performance tuner 91 octane preset, Jet under-drive pulleys
Rancho 999000 series shock, on-board controller to be installed later
DHC rock rails and skid plate Add-A-Leaf
G3500 front calipers
Zexel Torsen Diff
11" drums
180 amp Alternator
Long tru-cool 4590 trans cooler
1997 gone
Re: Dunedog's gear swap
I just scored a 4.10 ring & pinion for my front diff. on ebay!
So far,I've got that coming.Also have a Auburn locker and r&p for my
Now I just need to get my install kits!
So far,I've got that coming.Also have a Auburn locker and r&p for my
Now I just need to get my install kits!
'94 Astro AWD EXT LT - Over 211,000 ,parts van now!
DHC Rock rails
Overland Vans 4" lift kit and bumper w/grille guard
Fiamma awning
'95 Astro AWD EXT CS - Just over 99,000 miles
DHC Rock rails
Overland Vans 4" lift kit and bumper w/grille guard
Fiamma awning
'95 Astro AWD EXT CS - Just over 99,000 miles
Re: Dunedog's gear swap
Well Jim, you picked about the best place you could go for great help and great eating, have fun with the new gear set.
Nice work & pics Dean
Nice work & pics Dean
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Re: Dunedog's gear swap
Yeah, DuneDude's been BUSY!Cobra wrote:lifted you da man
and dunedog i can't believe it but twice in one month
You inspire me
I wish I lived a little closer to Dr Lifted. After watching Jim with that sawzall its probably a good thing to not be his neighbor with an Astro! After 20 hours strait of sawzalling he might walk up to the wrong van and fire that thing up!
Re: Dunedog's gear swap
Nice write up Dean , good luck guys . Jim your gonna LOVE the 4.10's !!!!
And heres waving back at ya as you pass on by , as i've said your welcome to stop in for coffee if i'm home as you come through . i'm literally 2 minutes off exit 25 on the NYS thruway .
And heres waving back at ya as you pass on by , as i've said your welcome to stop in for coffee if i'm home as you come through . i'm literally 2 minutes off exit 25 on the NYS thruway .