How to tell if deep pan or not
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How to tell if deep pan or not
I was going to get a trans gasket and filter to do a change and the first question I was asked was do I have a deep pan or not. I would guess not, but how do I tell?
Also, someone mentioned a drain plug kit that can be retrofitted into the pan if I understood correctly. If I did, where would one get such a thing, and how would one install it?
Also, someone mentioned a drain plug kit that can be retrofitted into the pan if I understood correctly. If I did, where would one get such a thing, and how would one install it?
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Re: How to tell if deep pan or not
That is easy...the shallow pan is not as deep as the deep pan!
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Re: How to tell if deep pan or not
get a bung and a drain plug with the same thread and drill a hole and weld it in.Rileysowner wrote:I was going to get a trans gasket and filter to do a change and the first question I was asked was do I have a deep pan or not. I would guess not, but how do I tell?
Also, someone mentioned a drain plug kit that can be retrofitted into the pan if I understood correctly. If I did, where would one get such a thing, and how would one install it?
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Re: How to tell if deep pan or not
So I need to go out a purchase on with a deep or shallow pan so I can compare Not much help.LiftedAWDAstro wrote:That is easy...the shallow pan is not as deep as the deep pan!
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Re: How to tell if deep pan or not
The standard pan is about 2" deep. The deep pan is about 3" deep. I can't imagine an Astro having a deep pan. They're usually found on heavy duty trucks.
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Re: How to tell if deep pan or not
Since I have never done something like that 1) Where would I get the parts? 2) How would they be installed?tbhager94 wrote:get a bung and a drain plug with the same thread and drill a hole and weld it in.Rileysowner wrote:I was going to get a trans gasket and filter to do a change and the first question I was asked was do I have a deep pan or not. I would guess not, but how do I tell?
Also, someone mentioned a drain plug kit that can be retrofitted into the pan if I understood correctly. If I did, where would one get such a thing, and how would one install it?
"I have a torque wrench and I am not afraid to use it."
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Re: How to tell if deep pan or not
Thanks, gotta measure.Smiliesafari wrote:The standard pan is about 2" deep. The deep pan is about 3" deep. I can't imagine an Astro having a deep pan. They're usually found on heavy duty trucks.
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Re: How to tell if deep pan or not
The shallow pan is 2.25" deep. The deep pans are 3" deep. The 2003 AWD I bought had a deep pan stock. Our 2005 Trailblazer as well as the 1999 Silverado I owned both had deep pans as well.
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Re: How to tell if deep pan or not
Good info, Dean. I'd like to have one on the "Smilievan".
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Re: How to tell if deep pan or not
Here you can just see the deeper extension on the deep GM pans.
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1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
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2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition
Mileage spreadsheet
Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
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Re: How to tell if deep pan or not
Jim, on the drain plug:
You can get retrofit plugs that don't require welding, drill a hole in the pan, the bung goes in like a bulkhead fitting. The only thing to be careful of is the placement. Even after measuring the location on the pan for clearance I managed to screw it up and wound up tossing the pan. So, at that point I just bought a replacement pan with a drain plug in it already. Parts sites that carry trans rebuild parts will have the retrofit bung and plug, or retrofit pans with drains.
You can get retrofit plugs that don't require welding, drill a hole in the pan, the bung goes in like a bulkhead fitting. The only thing to be careful of is the placement. Even after measuring the location on the pan for clearance I managed to screw it up and wound up tossing the pan. So, at that point I just bought a replacement pan with a drain plug in it already. Parts sites that carry trans rebuild parts will have the retrofit bung and plug, or retrofit pans with drains.
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Re: How to tell if deep pan or not
I still have not gotten to this as work has been busy, and it has been raining a lot.
If my Haynes manual can be believed the torque on the trans pan bolts is in inch/Lbs. I guess I need to get another torque wrench.
If my Haynes manual can be believed the torque on the trans pan bolts is in inch/Lbs. I guess I need to get another torque wrench.
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Re: How to tell if deep pan or not
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i used one of these on the 727 of my first car...it was very easy to install and didn't leak...
i used one of these on the 727 of my first car...it was very easy to install and didn't leak...
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Thanks. I have to see how they ship. It they uses USPS I will likely order from them, but if a courier probably not as being hit with a $20 customs brokerage fee for a $8 part seems silly.
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