Strange Vibration
Strange Vibration
Here's how it all started. The wife and I drove 1100 km in a snow storm to pick up our new puppy for our family. I was so happy that I decided to take the Safari instead of the Hardbody-it was horrible.
The van worked like a charm the whole way with no issues, other than topping up the PS fluid. The next day the wife took her brother for groceries, about a 45km round trip, and when she came home was complaining of a "shake". So I told her I'd check it out when I got a chance. Well I was changing the upper ball joint in my truck today when I got a fire call. I grabbed my radio, and I was enroute with the van. Til' I got it on the road doing 45 plus km/hr, and had to stand down because I thought the wheels were gonna fall off of the van. I ran a few test drives to figure out the problem. When I came home I jacked up the front and checked out the situation. I found nothing wrong-everything seemed nice and tight. I even tried the lugnuts, but they were tight.
During my test drive, I got it up to about 85km/hr or so, and when I slacked off to turn into my road- it was like I hit a rumble strip. Problem is, there are none around here. The vibration at that time was certainly something different that I had been feeling-with that being said, the rumble strip vibration is not something I can ignore. It was scary. It only lasted for a split second. Any suggestions?
95 AWD
The van worked like a charm the whole way with no issues, other than topping up the PS fluid. The next day the wife took her brother for groceries, about a 45km round trip, and when she came home was complaining of a "shake". So I told her I'd check it out when I got a chance. Well I was changing the upper ball joint in my truck today when I got a fire call. I grabbed my radio, and I was enroute with the van. Til' I got it on the road doing 45 plus km/hr, and had to stand down because I thought the wheels were gonna fall off of the van. I ran a few test drives to figure out the problem. When I came home I jacked up the front and checked out the situation. I found nothing wrong-everything seemed nice and tight. I even tried the lugnuts, but they were tight.
During my test drive, I got it up to about 85km/hr or so, and when I slacked off to turn into my road- it was like I hit a rumble strip. Problem is, there are none around here. The vibration at that time was certainly something different that I had been feeling-with that being said, the rumble strip vibration is not something I can ignore. It was scary. It only lasted for a split second. Any suggestions?
95 AWD
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Re: Strange Vibration
If all of the front end parts are good I'd swap the tires. Front to rear.
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Re: Strange Vibration
Snow and ice in the wheels. Make sure they are all clean and test it.
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Vans owned:
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1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
2013 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4
2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition
Mileage spreadsheet
Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
Re: Strange Vibration
LOL, I just came in from checking that. The wheels seem clean on the inside. When I got to the rear, I pushed back and forth, starting on the passenger side. I heard, clunk clunk clunk as the momentum got it rockin'. At first I thought it was the exhaust banging on something, but nope. So I went to the driver's side and did the same thing. I couldn't get that side to do it, but I certainly heard the other side. So, I returned to the passenger side, and physically grabbed the tire and pulled in and out. Each time resulted with a clunk. Went back over the the driver's side, pushed and pulled-same clunk.
Are the wheel bearings shot on both sides? If so, could this be the culprit?
I tried the same thing on the ol' astro, and it didn't do it. Now, the ol' astro is 2wd, and the safari is AWD-so I'm not sure if something is different. Should there be any play resulting in what I've described above?
Thanks for the quick replies
Are the wheel bearings shot on both sides? If so, could this be the culprit?
I tried the same thing on the ol' astro, and it didn't do it. Now, the ol' astro is 2wd, and the safari is AWD-so I'm not sure if something is different. Should there be any play resulting in what I've described above?
Thanks for the quick replies
95 safari AWD
94 astro, just itchin' for a V8!!
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Re: Strange Vibration
Yes, that clunk is normal. These vans have "c" clips holding the axles in the differential. The clunk you hear is the play in the "c" clip.
1996 Safari SLX Hotair balloon transport vehicle
Re: Strange Vibration
So you don't have ice or snow built up in the wheels. All your steering and suspension parts are tight.
Time to inspect your tires could have a broken belt inside causing the vibration.
How about your U-joints? Front axle shaft bad?
Time to inspect your tires could have a broken belt inside causing the vibration.
How about your U-joints? Front axle shaft bad?
Brandon
Bay City, MI
1997 Astro LT 4x4 48,000 Miles,
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1997 Buick Century 198,000 miles
Bay City, MI
1997 Astro LT 4x4 48,000 Miles,
Custom Lift: 3" body spacers, torsion keys,
4" leaf spring relocation mounts (by ME),
added a leaf spring from a 94 S10 blazer.
All this gives me 5-6 inches of lift.
General Grabber AT2 31X10.50R15
Custom fit Brush guard
Western 7' 6" plow pictures coming soon...
1997 Buick Century 198,000 miles
Re: Strange Vibration
Well I was hearing some clunking lastnight when I was putting it into drive, but not so much in reverse. A buddy of mine stood outside the van to pinpoint the noise-and said it was definitly coming from midship to the rear of the van. So to me, that's u joints correct? I'm used to them making more of a metallic sorta ting when they're bad. These ones are more of a clunk sorta bang.
Either way, I'm picking up new ones today and changing them out. I hope that's the problem. I don't think there's anything else that could cause a clunk in the driveline is there?
Thanks
Either way, I'm picking up new ones today and changing them out. I hope that's the problem. I don't think there's anything else that could cause a clunk in the driveline is there?
Thanks
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Re: Strange Vibration
I missed this, but what you describe is similar to what I had when a u-joint went.
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Jim
1997 GMC Safari RWD, Power Windows and Locks, 7 passenger, a/c, rear heat
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Jim
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Re: Strange Vibration
Well, I'm changin' them out today. So I'll let ya's all know how I make out.
95 safari AWD
94 astro, just itchin' for a V8!!
94 astro, just itchin' for a V8!!
Re: Strange Vibration
U joint...likely. My toyota pickup blew two...exact same symptoms. But you should be able to wiggle the driveshaft back and forth and actually notice the play in the bearing...in any case, i bet that will fix it...
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Re: Strange Vibration
yep.. i vote u-joint(s) also
Rob
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Re: Strange Vibration
Yup, was it ever the u joints. Well, the rear one was the worse. The caps had no bearings left inside of them, and they were just "rollin on rust" LOL
Thanks again to all!!
Very appreciated
Thanks again to all!!
Very appreciated
95 safari AWD
94 astro, just itchin' for a V8!!
94 astro, just itchin' for a V8!!
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Re: Strange Vibration
rollin' on rust... that would probably been worth a picture
1998 GMC Safari AWD, BFGoodrich AllTerrain T/A
Jet performance tuner 91 octane preset, Jet under-drive pulleys
Rancho 999000 series shock, on-board controller to be installed later
DHC rock rails and skid plate Add-A-Leaf
G3500 front calipers
Zexel Torsen Diff
11" drums
180 amp Alternator
Long tru-cool 4590 trans cooler
1997 gone
Jet performance tuner 91 octane preset, Jet under-drive pulleys
Rancho 999000 series shock, on-board controller to be installed later
DHC rock rails and skid plate Add-A-Leaf
G3500 front calipers
Zexel Torsen Diff
11" drums
180 amp Alternator
Long tru-cool 4590 trans cooler
1997 gone
Re: Strange Vibration
LOL, I saved em'. I'll post a pic later on.....
95 safari AWD
94 astro, just itchin' for a V8!!
94 astro, just itchin' for a V8!!
Re: Strange Vibration
yea my 95 astro awd van has the same thing going on it comes and goes when it wants but hapens between 40 and 80 km and feels like a wobble from the front right tire and make a thud thud thud thud sound till i slow down or stop then i can speed up and it goes away, i know the boot on the halfshaft on the same side is split the boot is the one furthest from the wheel so not sure if that would cause it, the wobble and clunking noise also stars after i hit a bump not all the time but some of the time .