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Re: r12 to r134a retrofit...

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:45 pm
by Jinmajay
Come by the house and I will fill it up for you! I stocked up in 95 and have been carting it around the country with me.

Of course, you will have to help me on my project van... #-o

Re: r12 to r134a retrofit...

Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:44 pm
by safariobsession
Good thinking back in 95! How far of a drive from southeast MI? Anything over an hour drive and i might as well get the EPA certification and buy the r12 on ebay myself, based on gas prices, haha!

Re: r12 to r134a retrofit...

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:13 am
by LaGrasta
I recently inherited a 1990 Ford Taurus with a dead R-12 system. A professional mechanic friend of my Dad's in AZ converted my Dad's 1978 Chevy van to R134 really cheap and said he'd do the same for my Taurus. When asked what parts are needed, he said none to my surprise. He said he only cleans the entire system and recharges with R134. Can this be correct? My Dad said it's been two years since his 78 was done and it works well, even in 115°+ AAZ temps.

Re: r12 to r134a retrofit...

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:20 am
by Rebel
Have 4 cans of R-12,,,anyone have a need for these ?

Re: r12 to r134a retrofit...

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:41 pm
by s10-den
how much Rebel?
On the other hand, I have converted several cars to 134a, will freeze your butt off here in Florida, so it cools just as good as r12 if not better

Re: r12 to r134a retrofit...

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:39 pm
by COMP
the R-12 i have is a investment :D

Re: r12 to r134a retrofit...

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:32 am
by Jim in Indy
If the long-chain chlorine atom was so 'bad' for the ozone layer.... then the EPA Nazi's would have outlawed swimming pool chemicals also. Think about all those pools, in the sunshine, evaporating, laden with, you guessed it.... the same basic chlorine atoms that make up R-12 !!

A pile of dung is a pile of dung, no matter what the latest junk science says.

Re: r12 to r134a retrofit...

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:38 am
by CaptSquid
LaGrasta wrote:I recently inherited a 1990 Ford Taurus with a dead R-12 system. A professional mechanic friend of my Dad's in AZ converted my Dad's 1978 Chevy van to R134 really cheap and said he'd do the same for my Taurus. When asked what parts are needed, he said none to my surprise. He said he only cleans the entire system and recharges with R134. Can this be correct? My Dad said it's been two years since his 78 was done and it works well, even in 115°+ AAZ temps.
You'll need a new dryer, a new oil charge, and a new orfice tube. Oh, yeah, the new connectors, too.

Re: r12 to r134a retrofit...

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:34 pm
by sfeaver
It the system still works, then I think youe easiest way is to get some real R12 and top it back up. You used to be able to take an online test for 20 bucks to get your EPA card to buy it. Doing a proper retrofit will cost more than the couple of pounds of R12 you will need.

I retrofitted an 89 Buick Lesabre a couple of years ago, do everything right, complete flush, new drier, new condensor etc. Wasnt good enough for me. Its back on R12 and will blow real cold. A system designed for R12 should run R12 if you can get your hands on it.

Scott