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Re: Brake Lines

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:56 am
by Rebel
To much prefab stuff out there today. I agree with Peter and if ya haven't flared any tubing before, go by Autozone, pick up the tools and learn how if you don't already know.
Use a tubing cutter to cut and ream inside before flaring. The few times I've made up any lines, after making flare I blow some air through the line and also starter fluid to clean out any particles that may have gotten inside tubing.

Good luck and rock and roll. Good Sat. project. :bounce:

Re: Brake Lines

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:39 pm
by ScottS
Gonna start replumbing tonight. :bounce:

Re: Brake Lines

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:55 pm
by peter
Rebel wrote: I agree with Peter ...The few times I've made up any lines, after making flare I blow some air through the line.....
I've got images of ole Larry hunkered down on his knees, plumber's crack showing above his baggy jeans, blowing into a set of brake lines with all his might. And for some completely unexplainable reason, I'm somehow.....aroused 8-[

Re: Brake Lines

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:17 pm
by potskie
Jim. Just turn it slowly. The number one killer of double flairs is a not clean edge to start with. Make sure the edge is square and then ream out the inside a touch. If it's smooth and you turn it nice and slow you'll be fine. I do it all time and I still screw one up here and there it's inevitable.

I would also recommend getting a foot or 2 of line and sit there while watching tv and practice it's not at all hard just takes some patience and care.

Re: Brake Lines

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:07 pm
by Rileysowner
I will have to get some practice. I have enough brakeline pieces lying around, so off to princess auto to get a flaring tool again.

Re: Brake Lines

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:22 pm
by ScottS
OK

So here is what came off the van

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It was just falling apart in my hands #-o


CRappy ol'e brake hose

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Ugly lines


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THis is the new SS hose

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it's nice to have a place to work- lots of tools and heavy equipmen- my safety yellow Corvair fit right in

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New Cunifer line ( copper-nickel-iron, used on military ships for hydraulic lines in saltwater)

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One rear line was usable as a pattern

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My helper, Ronnie JR, son of the shop owner

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Cunifer bends by hand and doesn't collapse

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I used this PE tube where the lines clamp to the axle to protect it from chafing

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In the flaring tool (don't forget the fittings )

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On the axle

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A flare

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NOw tomorow I get to run the 3/16 lines from the rear hose to the front , should not be too difficult

Re: Brake Lines

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:51 am
by peter
:supz: :supz:

Re: Brake Lines

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:47 am
by astrozam
ScottS wrote: I have a roll of 1/4 Cunifer (http://www.fedhill.com) to redo it ,
Are you sure thats the correct link,lol

BTW, nice job :supz: I like the fact you can bend by hand without being overly worried about crimping them.

Re: Brake Lines

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:53 am
by SafariRob
Here's where I found the website after a google search: http://store.fedhillusa.com/

Scott, great work you've done there. I rate brake work right along with exhaust plumbing as a downright nasty job, but this different type of brake tubing--easy to bend and never any rust-- has really piqued my curiosity. Thanks for the info; my 82 Olds needs its brake lines looked into and I can see that it'll be cunifer lines for it.

Re: Brake Lines

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:36 am
by d3athm3talh3ad
I just buy pre-made lengths of brake tubing now and bend 'em up myself. I get creative with the excessive lengths so the lines will fit.
i usually buy an extra foot or so of anything when i'm fabricating, i'm picturing a foot of coiled up tubing under the van...'honest officer, it's not a whiskey still!!'

Re: Brake Lines

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:21 pm
by potskie
d3athm3talh3ad wrote:
I just buy pre-made lengths of brake tubing now and bend 'em up myself. I get creative with the excessive lengths so the lines will fit.
i usually buy an extra foot or so of anything when i'm fabricating, i'm picturing a foot of coiled up tubing under the van...'honest officer, it's not a whiskey still!!'
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:muhaha:

Re: Brake Lines

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:09 pm
by SafariRob
Now, that's a creative use of excess tubing length, Potskie. It's there to cool the brake fluid, right?
Yep, I knew I was right! :bounce:

Re: Brake Lines

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:25 am
by Rebel
I failed miserably at it and the same happened with each attempt at making another flair.
As I was 18 years old at the time, I think I was traumatized for life by the experience
Now that's funny Rob.

Petey, the next time I blow a line we'll see if we can't get a vid and post. You know,,,something to watch late at night in the far north ?


You know I was talking about air from the comp. right and then brake cleaner ? Guess that imagination ran wild again. :supz:

By the way,,never heard of this line but sounds like it's very easy to fab and no future rust. :supz:

Am curious what the % is of each of the metals that make up the line ? You mentioend the use on ships and military vehicles. Is this used for brake lines on military vehicles and long runs for HF ? The reason I ask about the long runs of this line is the copper content. If it has a high copper content and not ment for long runs like our brake system, you may find you'll have a soft pedal due to line expansion when under high pressure of brake application. Just a thought that crossed my mind. I bought a semi complete Model A coupe years ago which at some point someone had used copper for the brake lines and you could actually see the lines expand when the brakes were applied. Not a good thing.
I hope this line will work ok because I need to redo my lines to the rear and it looks like the thing to work with.

Re: Brake Lines

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:08 am
by HPbyStan
Your Link http://store.fedhillusa.com looks like "Trick Shit" Maynerd. I "bookmarked" that baby tks !!

Re: Brake Lines

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 4:10 pm
by potskie
SafariRob wrote:Now, that's a creative use of excess tubing length, Potskie. It's there to cool the brake fluid, right?
Yep, I knew I was right! :bounce:
Nah it was just easier to leave the roll there and pull some as I needed it since I was doing the ABS module to rear axle line replacement. Neat line tho all I could find for 1/4 in stock that day was some polymer coated steel line.