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Re: Brake Lines
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:56 am
by Rebel
To much prefab stuff out there today. I agree with Peter and if ya haven't flared any tubing before, go by Autozone, pick up the tools and learn how if you don't already know.
Use a tubing cutter to cut and ream inside before flaring. The few times I've made up any lines, after making flare I blow some air through the line and also starter fluid to clean out any particles that may have gotten inside tubing.
Good luck and rock and roll. Good Sat. project.
Re: Brake Lines
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:39 pm
by ScottS
Gonna start replumbing tonight.
Re: Brake Lines
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:55 pm
by peter
Rebel wrote: I agree with Peter ...The few times I've made up any lines, after making flare I blow some air through the line.....
I've got images of ole Larry hunkered down on his knees, plumber's crack showing above his baggy jeans, blowing into a set of brake lines with all his might. And for some completely unexplainable reason, I'm somehow.....aroused
Re: Brake Lines
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:17 pm
by potskie
Jim. Just turn it slowly. The number one killer of double flairs is a not clean edge to start with. Make sure the edge is square and then ream out the inside a touch. If it's smooth and you turn it nice and slow you'll be fine. I do it all time and I still screw one up here and there it's inevitable.
I would also recommend getting a foot or 2 of line and sit there while watching tv and practice it's not at all hard just takes some patience and care.
Re: Brake Lines
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:07 pm
by Rileysowner
I will have to get some practice. I have enough brakeline pieces lying around, so off to princess auto to get a flaring tool again.
Re: Brake Lines
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:22 pm
by ScottS
OK
So here is what came off the van
It was just falling apart in my hands #-o
CRappy ol'e brake hose
Ugly lines
THis is the new SS hose
it's nice to have a place to work- lots of tools and heavy equipmen- my safety yellow Corvair fit right in
New Cunifer line ( copper-nickel-iron, used on military ships for hydraulic lines in saltwater)
One rear line was usable as a pattern
My helper, Ronnie JR, son of the shop owner
Cunifer bends by hand and doesn't collapse
I used this PE tube where the lines clamp to the axle to protect it from chafing
In the flaring tool (don't forget the fittings )
On the axle
A flare
NOw tomorow I get to run the 3/16 lines from the rear hose to the front , should not be too difficult
Re: Brake Lines
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:51 am
by peter
Re: Brake Lines
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:47 am
by astrozam
Are you sure thats the correct link,lol
BTW, nice job
I like the fact you can bend by hand without being overly worried about crimping them.
Re: Brake Lines
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:53 am
by SafariRob
Here's where I found the website after a google search:
http://store.fedhillusa.com/
Scott, great work you've done there. I rate brake work right along with exhaust plumbing as a downright nasty job, but this different type of brake tubing--easy to bend and never any rust-- has really piqued my curiosity. Thanks for the info; my 82 Olds needs its brake lines looked into and I can see that it'll be cunifer lines for it.
Re: Brake Lines
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:36 am
by d3athm3talh3ad
I just buy pre-made lengths of brake tubing now and bend 'em up myself. I get creative with the excessive lengths so the lines will fit.
i usually buy an extra foot or so of anything when i'm fabricating, i'm picturing a foot of coiled up tubing under the van...'honest officer, it's not a whiskey still!!'
Re: Brake Lines
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:21 pm
by potskie
d3athm3talh3ad wrote:I just buy pre-made lengths of brake tubing now and bend 'em up myself. I get creative with the excessive lengths so the lines will fit.
i usually buy an extra foot or so of anything when i'm fabricating, i'm picturing a foot of coiled up tubing under the van...'honest officer, it's not a whiskey still!!'
Re: Brake Lines
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:09 pm
by SafariRob
Now, that's a creative use of excess tubing length, Potskie. It's there to cool the brake fluid, right?
Yep, I knew I was right!
Re: Brake Lines
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:25 am
by Rebel
I failed miserably at it and the same happened with each attempt at making another flair.
As I was 18 years old at the time, I think I was traumatized for life by the experience
Now that's funny Rob.
Petey, the next time I blow a line we'll see if we can't get a vid and post. You know,,,something to watch late at night in the far north ?
You know I was talking about air from the comp. right and then brake cleaner ? Guess that imagination ran wild again.
By the way,,never heard of this line but sounds like it's very easy to fab and no future rust.
Am curious what the % is of each of the metals that make up the line ? You mentioend the use on ships and military vehicles. Is this used for brake lines on military vehicles and long runs for HF ? The reason I ask about the long runs of this line is the copper content. If it has a high copper content and not ment for long runs like our brake system, you may find you'll have a soft pedal due to line expansion when under high pressure of brake application. Just a thought that crossed my mind. I bought a semi complete Model A coupe years ago which at some point someone had used copper for the brake lines and you could actually see the lines expand when the brakes were applied. Not a good thing.
I hope this line will work ok because I need to redo my lines to the rear and it looks like the thing to work with.
Re: Brake Lines
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:08 am
by HPbyStan
Your Link
http://store.fedhillusa.com looks like "Trick Shit" Maynerd. I "bookmarked" that baby tks !!
Re: Brake Lines
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 4:10 pm
by potskie
SafariRob wrote:Now, that's a creative use of excess tubing length, Potskie. It's there to cool the brake fluid, right?
Yep, I knew I was right!
Nah it was just easier to leave the roll there and pull some as I needed it since I was doing the ABS module to rear axle line replacement. Neat line tho all I could find for 1/4 in stock that day was some polymer coated steel line.