4l60e
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4l60e
OK the 4l60e that is in the safari/astro is the same as a 4l60e in a ....... S10, Blazer, ...??
How about the 4l60e that would be in a car. Example being in Germany i have access to lots of used Opel's (GM Subsidiary) and many of those use the 4l60. Is the only issue the bell housing or are the gear ratios different as well...
OH and lockdoc... where did you go to get your parts and about how much did you spend on your rebuild...
How about the 4l60e that would be in a car. Example being in Germany i have access to lots of used Opel's (GM Subsidiary) and many of those use the 4l60. Is the only issue the bell housing or are the gear ratios different as well...
OH and lockdoc... where did you go to get your parts and about how much did you spend on your rebuild...
1999 Safari SLE. Stock. Proud owner since May 2010. So far I love it..
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The old cars - my progression to here (most recent first)
1996 Honda Passport
1988 BMW 320i touring
1989 BMW 520
2005 Chrysler Sebring Convertible
2002 Dodge 1500 Quad Cab
1989 BMW 320i
1990 Toyota Tercel EZ
1991 Mitshubishi Mirage
1970 Mercedes Benz 250 Saloon
P1050479 by leadtrombone, on Flickr
The old cars - my progression to here (most recent first)
1996 Honda Passport
1988 BMW 320i touring
1989 BMW 520
2005 Chrysler Sebring Convertible
2002 Dodge 1500 Quad Cab
1989 BMW 320i
1990 Toyota Tercel EZ
1991 Mitshubishi Mirage
1970 Mercedes Benz 250 Saloon
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Re: 4l60e
Yes the 4L60E is the same across many vehicles. Main things that change are the number of disks in the clutch pack, servo, and tail housing. The gears should be the same. Which Opels had the 4L60E?
I know several people have claimed to have good service from Oregon Performance Transmission.
I know several people have claimed to have good service from Oregon Performance Transmission.
Aaron
2005 Astro (Gandalf) - AWD, 4.3L, 3.42, 130k+ miles
1997 Astro (Grumpy - $250 Rally Van) - AWD, 4.3L, 3.42, LSD, 2" lift, 31" tires, 335k+ orig engine, $30 eBay fuel pump
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2005 Astro (Gandalf) - AWD, 4.3L, 3.42, 130k+ miles
1997 Astro (Grumpy - $250 Rally Van) - AWD, 4.3L, 3.42, LSD, 2" lift, 31" tires, 335k+ orig engine, $30 eBay fuel pump
Prev Astros:99,97,00,94,87,86
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Re: 4l60e
any advice on PATC performance... ?
Looking at my options. Either going to get a used tranny and rebuild at leisure then swap, or order a completly built one. This place PATC http://www.transmissioncenter.com/PATC_ ... ce%20Chart seems to have a pretty beefed uptranny for just a tik over 2grand. Still feeling out options.
price of parts and time to do it VS cost of tranny and shipping and done with warranty... hmm
I think that most all of the RWD opels that were automatics had the 4l60... That said automatics are the hard to find option in europe...
Looking at my options. Either going to get a used tranny and rebuild at leisure then swap, or order a completly built one. This place PATC http://www.transmissioncenter.com/PATC_ ... ce%20Chart seems to have a pretty beefed uptranny for just a tik over 2grand. Still feeling out options.
price of parts and time to do it VS cost of tranny and shipping and done with warranty... hmm
I think that most all of the RWD opels that were automatics had the 4l60... That said automatics are the hard to find option in europe...
1999 Safari SLE. Stock. Proud owner since May 2010. So far I love it..
P1050479 by leadtrombone, on Flickr
The old cars - my progression to here (most recent first)
1996 Honda Passport
1988 BMW 320i touring
1989 BMW 520
2005 Chrysler Sebring Convertible
2002 Dodge 1500 Quad Cab
1989 BMW 320i
1990 Toyota Tercel EZ
1991 Mitshubishi Mirage
1970 Mercedes Benz 250 Saloon
P1050479 by leadtrombone, on Flickr
The old cars - my progression to here (most recent first)
1996 Honda Passport
1988 BMW 320i touring
1989 BMW 520
2005 Chrysler Sebring Convertible
2002 Dodge 1500 Quad Cab
1989 BMW 320i
1990 Toyota Tercel EZ
1991 Mitshubishi Mirage
1970 Mercedes Benz 250 Saloon
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Re: 4l60e
The 4L60E is the same basically across the board but they are year specific also. There is the 93-94. Then the 95. The 96.....
After 96 I'm not sure which ones cross with each other.
I purchased my parts from many different vendors. Whichever had the parts I wanted the cheapest. The most I ever spent was about $600 total and it was pretty bad ass. If you want a good package right out of the gate I recommend http://www.700r4l60e.com.
After 96 I'm not sure which ones cross with each other.
I purchased my parts from many different vendors. Whichever had the parts I wanted the cheapest. The most I ever spent was about $600 total and it was pretty bad ass. If you want a good package right out of the gate I recommend http://www.700r4l60e.com.
Current:
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
Re: 4l60e
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1998 Astro, 246,000 miles
K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
Draw-Tite Dual Port Hitch System, hitch-mounted bike rack (4), hitch-mounted cargo tray, Thule roof-mounted cargo box
K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
Draw-Tite Dual Port Hitch System, hitch-mounted bike rack (4), hitch-mounted cargo tray, Thule roof-mounted cargo box
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Re: 4l60e
ok. so i have a line on a 4l60e from a late model blazer..
60 bucks or so. Could be in good shape ( or maybe not.. came out of a wrecked vehicle).
I am thinking. even if i have to take my time an rebuilt it (or the one in my van at the moment after a swap and finding out the new on is not so good) that it is too good of a deal to pass up.
The questions are... How can i tell what version of the tranny it is? I think it is out of a 98 or 99 year blazer. But the vehicle has already been crushed so i can't check. Is the a code/number that would confirm that it is the proper version for my 99Safari..
60 bucks or so. Could be in good shape ( or maybe not.. came out of a wrecked vehicle).
I am thinking. even if i have to take my time an rebuilt it (or the one in my van at the moment after a swap and finding out the new on is not so good) that it is too good of a deal to pass up.
The questions are... How can i tell what version of the tranny it is? I think it is out of a 98 or 99 year blazer. But the vehicle has already been crushed so i can't check. Is the a code/number that would confirm that it is the proper version for my 99Safari..
1999 Safari SLE. Stock. Proud owner since May 2010. So far I love it..
P1050479 by leadtrombone, on Flickr
The old cars - my progression to here (most recent first)
1996 Honda Passport
1988 BMW 320i touring
1989 BMW 520
2005 Chrysler Sebring Convertible
2002 Dodge 1500 Quad Cab
1989 BMW 320i
1990 Toyota Tercel EZ
1991 Mitshubishi Mirage
1970 Mercedes Benz 250 Saloon
P1050479 by leadtrombone, on Flickr
The old cars - my progression to here (most recent first)
1996 Honda Passport
1988 BMW 320i touring
1989 BMW 520
2005 Chrysler Sebring Convertible
2002 Dodge 1500 Quad Cab
1989 BMW 320i
1990 Toyota Tercel EZ
1991 Mitshubishi Mirage
1970 Mercedes Benz 250 Saloon
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Re: 4l60e
If it is 97 (maybe 96) and newer it will be a 2 piece trans. The bell housing is removable on these newer models. Other than that I don't know how to tell.
Current rides:
2013 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4
2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition
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Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
2013 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4
2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition
Mileage spreadsheet
Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
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Re: 4l60e
On the valve body there is usually a date cast on it.
Current:
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
Re: 4l60e
My understanding is it will work. If there is any difference at all, it is minor or insignificant. Plus you always have the original to swap parts from if needed to make fit. I say go for it!
To confirm, call GM and see what the parts guy says. I bet they are the same part numbers barring 2wd vs 4wd.
To confirm, call GM and see what the parts guy says. I bet they are the same part numbers barring 2wd vs 4wd.
1998 Astro, 246,000 miles
K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
Draw-Tite Dual Port Hitch System, hitch-mounted bike rack (4), hitch-mounted cargo tray, Thule roof-mounted cargo box
K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
Draw-Tite Dual Port Hitch System, hitch-mounted bike rack (4), hitch-mounted cargo tray, Thule roof-mounted cargo box
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Re: 4l60e
I would imagine that the donor trans would be OK as well. The majority of Blazers are 4WD though. If so it will not work unless you take the trans apart and swap the output shaft and tail housing.
Current:
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
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Topic author - I finally get the smurf thing
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Re: 4l60e
the donor blazer was a 2wd model.
Once i get the money back from my school that they owe me i am going to pick it up. I think i will do a strait swap. see if things are better. then look at slowly rebuilding the one in the van now.
Maybe i will try to beef it up so i can do some decent towing with it.
Once i get the money back from my school that they owe me i am going to pick it up. I think i will do a strait swap. see if things are better. then look at slowly rebuilding the one in the van now.
Maybe i will try to beef it up so i can do some decent towing with it.
1999 Safari SLE. Stock. Proud owner since May 2010. So far I love it..
P1050479 by leadtrombone, on Flickr
The old cars - my progression to here (most recent first)
1996 Honda Passport
1988 BMW 320i touring
1989 BMW 520
2005 Chrysler Sebring Convertible
2002 Dodge 1500 Quad Cab
1989 BMW 320i
1990 Toyota Tercel EZ
1991 Mitshubishi Mirage
1970 Mercedes Benz 250 Saloon
P1050479 by leadtrombone, on Flickr
The old cars - my progression to here (most recent first)
1996 Honda Passport
1988 BMW 320i touring
1989 BMW 520
2005 Chrysler Sebring Convertible
2002 Dodge 1500 Quad Cab
1989 BMW 320i
1990 Toyota Tercel EZ
1991 Mitshubishi Mirage
1970 Mercedes Benz 250 Saloon
Re: 4l60e
Be sure to update us on how it goes.
1998 Astro, 246,000 miles
K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
Draw-Tite Dual Port Hitch System, hitch-mounted bike rack (4), hitch-mounted cargo tray, Thule roof-mounted cargo box
K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
Draw-Tite Dual Port Hitch System, hitch-mounted bike rack (4), hitch-mounted cargo tray, Thule roof-mounted cargo box