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Solid Axle Swap and 4x4 conversion of 1996 LS 2WD

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:30 pm
by patgizz
About 4 years ago i bought this 1996 Astro LS 2wd at the junkyard. It had a rod knock and 168k miles, but was very well maintained and extremely clean. Originally i had planned to fix it for my mom to drive. We took the pan off and found a nasty journal on one of the rods that could actually be removed from below. resized rod, crank kit, and new timing set later it ran perfect. She drove it for a few weeks. I was driving one day and started hearing things, but tried to make it home. It quit at a light, and when i pulled it home i started digging. the bolts holding the timing gear to the cam had backed out until they tore a hole in the cover, then sheared off leaving a mess of wadded up chain. after installing a new timing set i found 0 compression on 5 cylinders, lots of bent valves. long story short, new heads installed and another rod knock from the abrupt locking up of the motor when the chain wadded up, we parked the thing. the temp tag in the back window expired in august 2007. fast forward to 2009, i bought a house, sold a few cars and wanted a project. drove the van here with no power, no registration, rod knock, and the brake line blew pulling it out of the barn at my parents house so i had no brakes. into the garage it went in september 2009, i yanked the 4.3 out and put in a vortec 5300 from a 2001 silverado. after general fitment issues caused clearance problems with things i could not afford to remedy, i left it in the garage over winter. this january i picked up a bastardized k5 blazer from what i would call a colossal redneck, whose preferred tool was obviously the sawzall, because the body was cut off aft of the doors, the doors were cut off, and the front fenders and chunks of the core support were cut off. but it supposedly ran, and i needed to slap my plow on something to do my driveway because snow blowers suck and my old plow truck gave up. got it running, and it drove so on went plow, and snap went the welded rear end. picked up 3/4 ton axles and installed just the rear.

long story short - and the first paragraph could be way longer - i plowed for 3 months with no heat, no doors, and it was miserable. i kept looking for a 73-87 pickup to put my running gear into, all the while the astro sat in the garage. then i figured - why not make a 4x4 astro? first thing i pulled the lsx driveline out.

after that the first order of business was to draw things out. i knew i had a 350/700r4/np208 combo that was tested and worked. i also knew i had an s10 2wd frame, some 1 ton chevy springs, 3.73 3/4 ton axles, and a complete 76 c30 at my disposal. after going over spring charts, i decided to use the 54" s10 rear leafs up front.

pretty simple after that. figure out where i wanted the axle and began to weld. the beginnings of the front crossmember were in place with spring hangers rather quickly.

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the crossmember began life as a 3x4 .250 steel angle. eventually it became a 3x4 tube. the first cut of the engine crossmember was nowhere near enough

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when i finally had van on wheels on garage floor i realized i had better get it outside before i started getting the rear up to match, or else i would be stuck inside. first order was lift the rear and get the axle in, because it was becoming a pain to work on a van that was 8" taller in front than the rear.

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removed the rear axle and the center pin on the spring so all i had in the van was the main leaf on each side.

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marked the front of a set of 1 ton truck springs and dissected them to make my lifted spring packs, and also going for extra capacity because i will be towing my boat up to lake erie with it.

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what i ended up with was astro main leaf and #3-6 plus the overload from the 1 ton pack. the springs alone have given almost enough lift, will have to add a couple more inches either with blocks or shackles, but the final tuning of ride height will be determined by where the front ends up. van up in the air was the perfect time to get the 14 bolt in. welded on new perches and removed the massive drum brakes to get it in. my mom actually helped me position it under the van and jack it up into place - i have one of the coolest moms ever.

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had some rotors delivered and pressed studs out of the drums and into them and stuck the hubs back on.

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popped the engine and trans in on JTR engine mounts. pic shows the extended front frame rails and bumper brackets and beginnings of the boxing of the front crossmember, which is now plated way back on the factory frame of the van.

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the last major accomplishment was melding the astro and k5 crossmembers to have a bolt in affair into all factory holes.

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since the last pics i have received my rear disc brackets, new front rotors, installed lots of engine accessories. tomorrow i plan to spend some quality time working on things. going to attempt to get the old steering arm off the knuckle and get the new one on and linked to the steering box. i also have to dissect the k5 rear leaf packs to get springs to add more to the front. the weight of van without drivetrain sat things perfectly, so i need to add one or two up front to raise things back up and add the capacity to carry the weight of the van plus snow plow.

Re: Solid Axle Swap and 4x4 conversion of 1996 LS 2WD

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:51 pm
by mdmead
Very cool! Can't wait to see the rest of this build!

Re: Solid Axle Swap and 4x4 conversion of 1996 LS 2WD

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:38 am
by patgizz
heres one more shot from today.

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i got a bunch of parts i needed pulled from what is left of the k5 donor, and i began removing the old torched off steering arm. those cone washers blow. i hoped to get the steering hooked up but my steering linkage stuff is so rusted and nasty that i need to buy a couple new parts. we're going to a wedding this afternoon so things must wait until tomorrow.

Re: Solid Axle Swap and 4x4 conversion of 1996 LS 2WD

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:00 pm
by Kidhauler
by any chance are you the son of a mad scientist??? cool project. My wife would never put up with that much cutting and hacking in the driveway.

Re: Solid Axle Swap and 4x4 conversion of 1996 LS 2WD

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:51 pm
by snapple
Very cool project you have going!! :cheers:
You mentioned Lake Erie, where you from?

Re: Solid Axle Swap and 4x4 conversion of 1996 LS 2WD

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:41 pm
by LiftedAWDAstro
AWESOME! Makes me want mine back. :muhaha:

Re: Solid Axle Swap and 4x4 conversion of 1996 LS 2WD

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:01 pm
by lockdoc
Wow! Very cool and ambitious. Looking forward to more!

Re: Solid Axle Swap and 4x4 conversion of 1996 LS 2WD

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:49 am
by patgizz
i'm just south of cleveland. grew up in the city.

no mad scientist in the family, but my dad was a millwright at the steel mill so that explains a ton.

Re: Solid Axle Swap and 4x4 conversion of 1996 LS 2WD

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:15 am
by 9dawgs
Yes! This is what I would eventually like to do to my 4x2 '99! :bounce: Great write up. I'm looking forward to the finished project. =D>

Re: Solid Axle Swap and 4x4 conversion of 1996 LS 2WD

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:14 pm
by patgizz
got wrapped up with some work stuff, fixing the roof on the house, and doing intake gaskets and power steering pump on my sister's 3100 lumina.

the front leaves are complete. ended up with the full s10 leaf pack, with two leaves(#2 and #4) from the k5 rear packs, and a superlift add-a-leaf made for s10. this gives me the capacity i need to carry the front end. i purchased 1500# level load helpers for the plow, but i may put the plow on the big truck.

today i got the old crap studs removed from the driver side exhaust manifold and installed new ones, and put both manifolds on. took out the distributor that i damaged putting the engine in and installed an accel HEI leftover from a camaro i parted out.

i also picked up a dual exhaust kit for 81-87 fullsize, which is what my manifolds are from, to get the proper pipes to mate to the manifolds.

while at summit racing last week i scored bilsteins for new durangos, the rears will be perfect and the fronts will be perfect when i make brackets, for a whopping $12 for all 4.

i'll get more pics shortly. i have noticed, due to the bottom of the core support being weak with rust, that the core support has spread up at the top about 1/2" and will need pulled back together when i reinstall the upper part that i cut out to do the engine swap through the front. darn ohio road salt.

also the pull a part we went to the other day has an astro conversion with a high top, and they told me $50 for it! so i need to go back and figure out how to remove a high top from a van without breaking it.

the new steering arm and the factory pitman arm have been drilled to 5/8" and tapered for my new steering linkage. i am STILL fighting with those damn cone washers. i am almost to the point of torching the old arm off of the studs.

Re: Solid Axle Swap and 4x4 conversion of 1996 LS 2WD

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:08 am
by astrozam
Great Job patgizz, nice pics and write up :supz:

Re: Solid Axle Swap and 4x4 conversion of 1996 LS 2WD

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:36 am
by BLAZER
Nice project Pat. Keep the pics coming.
I'm glad you already got the K5 after it was wasted or I would have had to drive up there and kick your rear for cutting one up :D

Re: Solid Axle Swap and 4x4 conversion of 1996 LS 2WD

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:32 am
by patgizz
i'll have to post a pic of the donor, it was nasty. i can uninstall the load leveler helpers because the plow is on the big truck now, and slap them on the rear of my new sonoma.

i did look at the van yesterday and want to work on it, but i had to rewire the plow and put a fuel filter on the work truck before it started raining. going to see if there is a way i can get the van in the garage to finish it up, maybe air down the tires and push it in.

Re: Solid Axle Swap and 4x4 conversion of 1996 LS 2WD

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:47 pm
by patgizz
in my infinite putting off of the astro to do other things the weather has come around and made it nice and warm for me to work on the van again.

over the last 6 months i have:

bought a 95 impala SS and installed the 5.3/4l60e that were in the astro, so now have an lsx powered impala to hoon around in when i get the wiring finished.

converted my big 1 ton dually from an sm465 manual that i was sick of replacing slaves and clutch lines on(and shifting after a long day of work) to a th400. i actually just drove it for the first time in 5 months today.

scrapped my crown vic - never trying another ford

bought an 05 rendezvous for my wife

had a baby


i was also busy picking up parts for the van. i have new valve covers and gaskets, new carb and gaskets, installed a new distributor because i accidentally burned the old one when torching the body off the donor truck. i talked to the driveshaft shop yesterday and he is going to take care of making a new rear shaft to mate the np208 to the 14 bolt. i also have some 245/75/16 goodyear wrangler ht's to try and fit to the astro, as well as a brush guard that i picked up for $25 at an estate sale. i also borrowed a reamer and made the proper tapered hole in my stock pitman arm and a new straight steering arm, and picked up a new drag link assembly. also i ordered a dual exhaust kit for 85 pickup to match my manifolds, and some mufflers to fit that.

now that the big truck is out of the way, i can pull the astro back up to the garage and get busy. i never did get that old torched off steering arm removed, not sure what to do about that one aside of destroying the studs and buying new ones.

expect some updates with pics soon.

Re: Solid Axle Swap and 4x4 conversion of 1996 LS 2WD

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:03 pm
by Herbie
What vehicle did the 14-bolt come from?

I want a selectable locker, so I've been scheming on what application I can steal a rear assembly from. Did it fit more or less or did you have to shorten/lengthen to make up for the passenger-side offset?