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New S-10 rear leaves and Torsion keys

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:11 pm
by photo_van
This summer while I had the van torn apart for new suspension bushings, gears etc, I decided to replace the 3" blocks and tired 2+1 leaf springs that I'd been running for the last ten or so years. I was tired of the tire scrub I was getting from spring wrap, particularly up hill. The front end seemed like it was sagging as well, whether due to old torsion bars or the 80lbs of brush guard I hung on the front.

Unfortunately, ten years ago, when I first did the lift, I failed to measure the ride height. But these are the numbers I had with the old suspension:

33 LF
33.5 RF
35 LR
34.25 RR

This was carefully measured on flat ground after a rolling stop (no brakes), no load. The van had 2" spacers with torsion bars cranked to the max up front with 3" blocks and front hanger relocation in the rear. **The remount on the front hanger moves the front of the spring down ~1.5" offering 3/4" lift. Ideally I would add 1.5" in rear shackle to keep the pinion angle correct, but I've been running it that way for several years without vibration). Tires are 31" BFG's (that measure closer to 30")
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Un-loaded the new S-10 leaves (3+1) measured 3" more arc but I was thinking since they were new they would provide more than 3" of lift. The torsion keys that I got off ebay (Air Bagit) are very nice machined (rather than cast) keys. They are advertised as 1-3" lift. Though in talking with them they say they aren't as much designed for lift as they are for leveling tired T-bars.
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The keys have a re-indexed rotation of ~1"

Since I had the front end all apart, putting in the new keys was simple with no big clamp necessary. The leaf springs were a direct bolt up and I slammed the rear axle all the way forward to make up for the rearward shift that is a result of the lower (farther back) hanger hole. I screwed the bolts on the torsion keys about half way in for starters.

33.5 in front
35 rear

So the S-10 leaves did only provide 3" of lift. Two more full turns on the key adjusters and the front is at 34" with the adjuster bolt about 2/3 of the way in.

The end result
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And it took care of the tire rub.

Anyone looking for an additional or quick 3" lift, I've got a good deal on some blocks and u-bolts!!

Re: New S-10 rear leaves and Torsion keys

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:47 am
by LiftedAWDAstro
Van looks great! Nice stance and I like the way you shifted the rear axle back.

Re: New S-10 rear leaves and Torsion keys

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:55 am
by doyoulikeithere
Ditto... Looks great. rides a LOT better eh?
:withstupid:

Re: New S-10 rear leaves and Torsion keys

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:40 pm
by H2OJoe
Nice job! Van looks great! :cheers: :guitar:

Re: New S-10 rear leaves and Torsion keys

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:36 pm
by mdmead
Very nice. Will keep this in mind when I put together my rear lift.

Re: New S-10 rear leaves and Torsion keys

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:34 pm
by photo_van
Thanks all! Ya, it rides nice, not so spongey in the rear and I'm guessing it will keep a taller stance when I load the camping gear. Only one (rough) test drive so far; the only tire scrub now is from the inside rear when it gets way up in the fender well!

Re: New S-10 rear leaves and Torsion keys

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:59 pm
by Tegnus
Did you use specific torsion bar compression tool or just a C clamps to swap keys?

Re: New S-10 rear leaves and Torsion keys

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:37 am
by photo_van
I had the ball joints out so the lower control arm was completely relaxed and the key as I recall, didn't need compression in that position. If they did it was very little and at some point in the past I seem to remember using a hydraulic "bottle jack" on blocks. I also seem to remember that seeming kinda dangerous so don't quote me on that. In any case, I do know for certain (as certain as anyone close to 60 can be about past events), that I have never used a compression tool or c-clamp.

Hope that helps #-o

Re: New S-10 rear leaves and Torsion keys

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:05 pm
by mdmead
How are the rear springs holding up? Just wondering if the height has settled or if the original after-lift measurements have remained the same. (I'm thinking I will go this route with springs, plus a 1"-2" block, to get the 5" of lift I'll need to match the front.)

Re: New S-10 rear leaves and Torsion keys

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:12 pm
by photo_van
Matt

I'll measure it next time I have it out on a flat paved surface.

Re: New S-10 rear leaves and Torsion keys

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:13 pm
by Tegnus
mdmead wrote:How are the rear springs holding up? Just wondering if the height has settled or if the original after-lift measurements have remained the same.
I would be interested in this as well.

Re: New S-10 rear leaves and Torsion keys

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:11 am
by photo_van
I had the van unloaded the other day and re-measured the rear; came up with 34.75. I do have new tires that seem to be a little bigger than the old ones, so the test is not exactly accurate. My guess is the springs have relaxed a bit.

Re: New S-10 rear leaves and Torsion keys

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:38 pm
by mdmead
Thanks for the info!

Re: New S-10 rear leaves and Torsion keys

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:49 pm
by Neacail
What year of S10 springs did you use? I'd like to do a similar lift, and would like to know what to look out for.

Thanks!

Re: New S-10 rear leaves and Torsion keys

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:20 pm
by Tegnus
Neacail wrote:What year of S10 springs did you use? I'd like to do a similar lift, and would like to know what to look out for.

Thanks!
Most people use these, incl. me on my 2003 AWD:
http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index.php ... caf0cefd46

Some use these, which are meant for bigger weight:
http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index.php ... caf0cefd46