95 5.7 into my 94 CPI
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95 5.7 into my 94 CPI
Aloha all, I just brought home a 95 C1500 to install into my ailing 94 with the CPI fuel injection system. I'm using the trany from the PU. Can I use my ECM or use the computer, wiring harness from the donor vehicle? And will someone Please tell me if I can swap the motor mounts and how. Thanks Mike
98 Astro with a 95 LT1
94 Astro stock w/Flo master.
94 Astro stock w/Flo master.
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Re: 95 5.7 into my 94 CPI
This is the second time this week I posted this link. Utilze the the search function. This is how I did the swap:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3330
There are other posts dealing with the motor mounts and other pertanent info.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3330
There are other posts dealing with the motor mounts and other pertanent info.
Current:
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
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Re: 95 5.7 into my 94 CPI
And I suggest you pull the heads and have 'em checked for cracks. 95'-96' Vortec heads were supposedly prone to cracking due to some problem with the metal or something, don't remember what....
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Re: 95 5.7 into my 94 CPI
Thanks Peter and lockdock, It's a throttle body not vortec and I was hoping to do only the timing chain and Intake. I mostly was looking for a explanation on reversing the mounts. I checked and everyone talks about it but no one explains how to.
98 Astro with a 95 LT1
94 Astro stock w/Flo master.
94 Astro stock w/Flo master.
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Re: 95 5.7 into my 94 CPI
HPStan did the mounts that way but I don't know exactly what he did.
Current:
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
Re: 95 5.7 into my 94 CPI
Reverse the V6 engine mounts to the other side of the V8. Then redrill the frame to move the right frame mount 3 inches forward and make a bracket to move the left frame mount 3 inches forward. The V8 is 4 point something inches longer than the 6 but the offset in the engine mounts makes up the difference. I have a jig set up to drill it either way.
'04 White AWD Astro cargo
'00 Astro / El Camino
'61 BSA Super Rocket
'71 BSA B50 engine in a '67 C25 250 chassis
Impossible is just a degree of difficulty....
'00 Astro / El Camino
'61 BSA Super Rocket
'71 BSA B50 engine in a '67 C25 250 chassis
Impossible is just a degree of difficulty....
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Re: 95 5.7 into my 94 CPI
Thanks Stan, I just figured out the mount thing. The only other thing is the stock Air filter housing. What's everyone using on the TBI engine. The least I will do is a K&N filter.
98 Astro with a 95 LT1
94 Astro stock w/Flo master.
94 Astro stock w/Flo master.
Re: 95 5.7 into my 94 CPI
I used an after market setup with a K&N cone type breather that was meant for a Full size Chev pickup truck. The brand name escapes me. Instead of going directly to the right side as on the truck, on the Astro is was more to the front but offset a little to the right.
EDIT............ AirAid AA200-104 '95 Chev C1500 PU V8 5.0 gas.
http://airaidsales.com/AirAid-Cold-Air-Intakes-PRD.aspx
EDIT............ AirAid AA200-104 '95 Chev C1500 PU V8 5.0 gas.
http://airaidsales.com/AirAid-Cold-Air-Intakes-PRD.aspx
'04 White AWD Astro cargo
'00 Astro / El Camino
'61 BSA Super Rocket
'71 BSA B50 engine in a '67 C25 250 chassis
Impossible is just a degree of difficulty....
'00 Astro / El Camino
'61 BSA Super Rocket
'71 BSA B50 engine in a '67 C25 250 chassis
Impossible is just a degree of difficulty....
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Re: 95 5.7 into my 94 CPI
I also used a cone style as well. I got it off ebay fairly cheap. I had to cut the steel tube shorter to make it fit. Down side is that it sucked a lot of hot air. On my 93 AWD V8 I used a stock setup from a late 80's full size van moddified a bit. This gives the engine a bit cooler air.
Current:
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
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Topic author - I finally get the smurf thing
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Re: 95 5.7 into my 94 CPI
Thanks Stan, nice looking filter setup Lockdoc. I'd love to find an ebay less pricey one, If I had an extra 200 bucks I'd a put in a cam. But thanks again Stan for the web page, this is the wife's van and I want to impress her every time she opens the hood. Or maybe I'll impress her in a different way because I don't think she ever opened a hood in her life.
98 Astro with a 95 LT1
94 Astro stock w/Flo master.
94 Astro stock w/Flo master.
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Re: 95 5.7 into my 94 CPI
What are you guys doing for the throttle cable? Mines way too short, the one from the doner vehicle is too short also.
98 Astro with a 95 LT1
94 Astro stock w/Flo master.
94 Astro stock w/Flo master.
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Re: 95 5.7 into my 94 CPI
Are you using a throttle body from an Astro? The Astro TB linkage is at the front of the engine opposed to the rear. I have never had a problem with the throttle cable using the stock setup.
Current:
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
Re: 95 5.7 into my 94 CPI
[quote="lockdoc"]Are you using a throttle body from an Astro? The Astro TB linkage is at the front of the engine opposed to the rear. I have never had a problem with the throttle cable using the stock setup.[/quote
Yeah, that question catches me by surprise also but I never swapped out a CPI engine either.
Yeah, that question catches me by surprise also but I never swapped out a CPI engine either.
'04 White AWD Astro cargo
'00 Astro / El Camino
'61 BSA Super Rocket
'71 BSA B50 engine in a '67 C25 250 chassis
Impossible is just a degree of difficulty....
'00 Astro / El Camino
'61 BSA Super Rocket
'71 BSA B50 engine in a '67 C25 250 chassis
Impossible is just a degree of difficulty....
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Re: 95 5.7 into my 94 CPI
My 93 had CPI. When I converted to TBI I used the original cable with an Astro TBI unit.
Current:
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
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Re: 95 5.7 into my 94 CPI
I started the van today minus the exhaust. I need to start putting everything back together and sleeve the wiring. Thanks to locdoc and stan for the information on the wiring and mounts it saved me lots of time and money. I went ahead and bought the air cleaner from Airaid, it looks similar to the one pictured but my 94 is the short front so it sits on the radiator cap. I'm using a single fan on the stock radiator with a temp induced fan switch. I got pictures.
98 Astro with a 95 LT1
94 Astro stock w/Flo master.
94 Astro stock w/Flo master.