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Re: tire tips
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:12 pm
by chemist
Okay, too many variables to give a good answer. Where do live, and how are winters there? What do you use your van for? Do you ever tow? Will you at some point in the future decide to build a sandbox for kids and bring home lumber plus 30 playsand bags?
My gut says buy LT tires with a good tread and the size rated for your van. But then, you may live in the Carolinas, never see snow, and only use your van to take the family grocery shopping... I know money is tight for everyone now, including myself. That makes passenger car tires very tempting, and necessary for some. But it all boils down to where you live and what you do with it.
Re: tire tips
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:19 pm
by okeman
I live in canada. winters are normal and I use the van for everything its family and stuff like that
Re: tire tips
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:14 am
by astrozam
Not for everyone ,but they suit my style of driving so far...
http://www.astrosafarivans.com/review/M ... chelin.htm
Re: tire tips
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:56 am
by thevalleyboy
I like winter tires in the winter - once you try them you'll understand.... and swear by them - however that might not be an option depending on finances... I also have a set of LT tires for the summer - I plan to get a travel trailer and drive gravel back roads - so the LT's are a must for me. In the past however I have had good luck with Michelin LTX's on my truck, Goodyear Wranglers on my jeep, and Hankooks have been good to me also. I would also say go for the LT - my winters are P rated and the van sure shows its weight on them.
Re: tire tips
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:04 pm
by okeman
anyone run the BFG AT's st stock size on their van, I know others have them with 31's. do they even make them that small this is the smallest set of tires that I have bought in the last 4 years 33's were the last smallest
Re: tire tips
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:47 am
by Cobra
i have the BFG's All-Terrain on my truck at stock size they are pretty aggresive and they worked damn well in the snow, since i was out last winter before the snow plows i got to test them out in 6-8 inches was passing trucks my family thaty was with me during the drive were laughing as i had a hugh smile on my face
Re: tire tips
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:34 pm
by okeman
Cobra wrote:i have the BFG's All-Terrain on my truck at stock size they are pretty aggresive and they worked damn well in the snow, since i was out last winter before the snow plows i got to test them out in 6-8 inches was passing trucks my family thaty was with me during the drive were laughing as i had a hugh smile on my face
sweet thanks man
Re: tire tips
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:08 am
by astroturf
okeman, What did you end up getting? Thanks, Jim
Re: tire tips
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:45 pm
by Moreforles
chemist wrote:Okay, too many variables to give a good answer. Where do live, and how are winters there? it all boils down to where you live and what you do with it.
Money is almost always tight (at least for me - when ever I think I have a little extra... we have a mechanical problem with one vehicle or another.... medical problem, plumbing, electrical or problem with one utility company or another, sickness or death of relative.... list goes on for ever... the mythical "extra money")
Live in Cleveland (at least, for now....) not too hilly, do drive in snow, rain and sometimes on gravel (driveways for the most part) over a thousand pounds of equipment, chemicals and water (85 gallon fresh water tank, which I normally only keep 30 or 40 gallons in) plus fuel and myself. (not a skinny driver....)
Been told (by a tire distributor) that I wouldn't find a LT tire in sizes under 235, and that 215 75 15 was kind of an odd size.... also, changed the rear end in Safari, now using the 88 astro rearend, and noticed the speedometer is off now (different gearing...) going about .9 for every mile.... and about 4 miles an hour off.... thinking maybe going up to 225 75 15, might reset, or would that change it farther. Never could figure out how tire size changes the speedometer up or down.....>
Re: tire tips
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:32 am
by phr1$k37
thevalleyboy wrote:I like winter tires in the winter - once you try them you'll understand.... and swear by them - however that might not be an option depending on finances...
I agree! Winter tires do their stuff in the snow.
I have tired many tires for my Safari, Jag V12, Firebird 383, BMW 2.5L and heh the Venture van.
For my ride I finally (after trying 5 different tires) settled on the Toyo Open Country AT LT235/75/15. Not to big not to small still good on mpg, aggressive threads but quiet and can hum up to 160kph+ NO PROBLEMS and still take the snow (check my youtube for our 3' snow), mud and not chew through my gas tank.
I live in BC, Canada (lower mainland).
Re: tire tips
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:41 am
by astroturf
phr1$k37 wrote:thevalleyboy wrote:I like winter tires in the winter - once you try them you'll understand.... and swear by them - however that might not be an option depending on finances...
I agree! Winter tires do their stuff in the snow.
I have tired many tires for my Safari, Jag V12, Firebird 383, BMW 2.5L and heh the Venture van.
For my ride I finally (after trying 5 different tires) settled on the Toyo Open Country AT LT235/75/15. Not to big not to small still good on mpg, aggressive threads but quiet and can hum up to 160kph+ NO PROBLEMS and still take the snow (check my youtube for our 3' snow), mud and not chew through my gas tank.
I live in BC, Canada (lower mainland).
phr, Just looked it up. Good looking tire. What kind of mpg do you get with that tire? Thanks, Jim
edit: I also am curious as to how much it throws off your speedometer? Thanks again, Jim
Re: tire tips
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:49 am
by phr1$k37
astroturf wrote:
phr, Just looked it up. Good looking tire. What kind of mpg do you get with that tire? Thanks, Jim
edit: I also am curious as to how much it throws off your speedometer? Thanks again, Jim
Click on my click in the SIG to see what I have done to the vehicle to compare to yours. If I am having fun with all the teenagers from light to light I am looking at 22-26L/100km ... if normal driving with decent amount of gaunt throttle 18-20L/100km. If driving with children / seniors dude, like 13.5-15L/100km no problem! This is all city driving ~15-20km distances.
If on highway say a 3 hour drive covering 200kms with mountains and high-elevations, loaded up (camping for 5 people + car-top) ~16.5L/100KM.
If on highway from Richmond BC Canada to Seattle, WA, USA a nice 13.5-14L/100km (google the distance) and that includes runs at 160kph :p
It is a good tire.
Stock size is 26.5? (215/75/15) so at 235/75/15 but LT they are 29.1" ~3% but I reprogrammed so no problems.
BTW all my numbers I get from my scangauage2 which I verified several times with manual calculation with a full-tank, same gas station and yes call me a geek same temperature outdoor :p
Since you live in the states check out Big O tires ... Dean gave me suggestion way back then regarding their tires, made by Cooper.
The Michelin LTX are pretty good but they didnt have enough bite in them for me in the snow.
Sorry use google search to convert my numbers to mpg.
Hope this helps!
Honestly for me ... maybe cause I dont have children yet the amount of fun I get hitting the throttle and running in 2nd gear a lot is not worth the savings in gas haha.
EDIT: In google type "16.5L/100km to mpg" to convert.
Just a reminder I am AWD based and on 3.73 gears. Within my daily drive to work and back I have 13 traffic lights and 3 stop signs this is city driving and those lights get me a lot. I aim to get 14L/100km when I arrive in my less than 15km drive (ouch!) so though my mpg may look bad for my driving it is excellent.
11 L/100km = 21.3831439 miles per gallon (I can get this all the time after hockey, 2AM drives home with no traffic and time the lights haha)
13.5 L/100km = 17.4233025 miles per gallon (norm)
16.5 L/100km = 14.2554293 miles per gallon (norm w/ fun)
22 L/100km = 10.691572 miles per gallon (hah ha ... er playing)
Re: tire tips
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:15 am
by astroturf
phr, All good info thanks, Jim
Re: tire tips
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:09 pm
by Cobra
Phrisket i noticed when ever someone asks you a question you go all out and tell them everything you know do you do that in everyday life or just one here?
i had to ask (don't hurt me :-k )
Re: tire tips
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:52 pm
by phr1$k37
Cobra wrote:Phrisket i noticed when ever someone asks you a question you go all out and tell them everything you know do you do that in everyday life or just one here?
i had to ask (don't hurt me :-k )
I wont hurt you cause I am not sure if you are asking because you are annoyed with me or not hah ha.
I dont give short non-concise answers to family and friends .. and well ASV is part of this group for me.
There have been countless times that good folks here have helped me so I should try to return the favor
I dont expect anything I say to be taking as bread and butter - just another opinion.