Subframe/Crossmember R and R
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Topic author - I sleep in my van
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Subframe/Crossmember R and R
Well decided to get energetic and attempt to clean up the subframe, crossmembers and various underbody components. A little wire brushing, grinding, acid rust remover, paint and undercoat and the van should be good to go for a while longer. I'll post some photos in a day or 2 just for a little show and tell. Anywhere under these vans to be extra concerned with? in all or your experiences let me know. I basically am just looking to ensure I take care of problems before they grow, seeing as how us Canadians have old man winter knocking on our doors. Mind you it was an awesome day in Calgary today, hell its 7pm and still 16C aka 60F
2001 Astro LT AWD - SOLD @ 180,200KM
Now I got a 2006 Ford Expedition King Ranch 4 x 4
to pull a Hybrid RV - 2006 Kodiak 235
Calgary, Alberta
Now I got a 2006 Ford Expedition King Ranch 4 x 4
to pull a Hybrid RV - 2006 Kodiak 235
Calgary, Alberta
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Re: Subframe/Crossmember R and R
Just to get this out in the open. I am a show off and have been beat down several times because of it!
Here is my shinny subframe.
![Image](http://im1.shutterfly.com/procgtaserv/47b8d701b3127cce98548b6ca30500000046100Qbt3Ldw1cMQ)
Here is how it looked before.
![Image](http://im1.shutterfly.com/procgtaserv/47b7ce05b3127cce98548b78c87100000026100Qbt3Ldw1cMQ)
The worst spot for mine was under the front body bushings. If you are not removing anything then you woudl never see it. I had to replace metal on both sides.
![Image](http://im1.shutterfly.com/procgtaserv/47b7ce05b3127cce98548abd091c00000036100Qbt3Ldw1cMQ)
![Image](http://im1.shutterfly.com/procgtaserv/47b7ce05b3127cce98548aac883d00000036100Qbt3Ldw1cMQ)
![Image](http://im1.shutterfly.com/procgtaserv/47b7ce05b3127cce98548aaf090e00000036100Qbt3Ldw1cMQ)
I have more pictures at link below.
Here is my shinny subframe.
Here is how it looked before.
The worst spot for mine was under the front body bushings. If you are not removing anything then you woudl never see it. I had to replace metal on both sides.
I have more pictures at link below.
The Tran man http://jayjensen.shutterfly.com/action/
1994 AWD GMC Safari, V8 truck van project
1998 2WD Astro
1999 AWD Astro
1994 AWD GMC Safari, V8 truck van project
1998 2WD Astro
1999 AWD Astro
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Re: Subframe/Crossmember R and R
Damb that IS shiny.... I wish mine was going to look like that - but alas I am not removing mine from the van - so I'll do what I can..... nothing wrong with being proud of hard work! ![cheers! :cheers:](./images/smilies/smile_cheers.gif)
![cheers! :cheers:](./images/smilies/smile_cheers.gif)
2001 Astro LT AWD - SOLD @ 180,200KM
Now I got a 2006 Ford Expedition King Ranch 4 x 4
to pull a Hybrid RV - 2006 Kodiak 235
Calgary, Alberta
Now I got a 2006 Ford Expedition King Ranch 4 x 4
to pull a Hybrid RV - 2006 Kodiak 235
Calgary, Alberta
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Re: Subframe/Crossmember R and R
Photos as promised - added as links - got the board quota error
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7474654@N04/2991247145/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7474654@N04/2991247133/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7474654@N04/2991247157/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7474654@N04/2991247167/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7474654@N04/2991247175/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7474654@N04/2991247193/
Next year I'll do the back end....
too many fumes
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7474654@N04/2991247145/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7474654@N04/2991247133/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7474654@N04/2991247157/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7474654@N04/2991247167/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7474654@N04/2991247175/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7474654@N04/2991247193/
Next year I'll do the back end....
![Rolling eyes :rolleyes:](./images/smilies/icon_eyes.gif)
2001 Astro LT AWD - SOLD @ 180,200KM
Now I got a 2006 Ford Expedition King Ranch 4 x 4
to pull a Hybrid RV - 2006 Kodiak 235
Calgary, Alberta
Now I got a 2006 Ford Expedition King Ranch 4 x 4
to pull a Hybrid RV - 2006 Kodiak 235
Calgary, Alberta
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Re: Subframe/Crossmember R and R
Man what an improvement! I'm glad I don't live in rock salt country. Mine's rusty but nothing like you guys had.
What did you use for paint?
Jinmajay, I don't see that as boasting, that's a beautiful piece of work there.
What did you use for paint?
Jinmajay, I don't see that as boasting, that's a beautiful piece of work there.
'89 Astro, 4.3L, TBI. Minor intake and exhaust mods. Rebuilt 700R4 trans (by me). Corvette servo, 0.5" boost valve, police grade 1-2 accumulator spring (shifts fast and solid). B&M stacked plate trans cooler. Bilstein shocks. Belltech sway bars front and back. New head unit, speakers and subwoofer. Needs paint and a new headliner.
name's Steve
I can't remember all I've forgotten about that....
name's Steve
I can't remember all I've forgotten about that....
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Re: Subframe/Crossmember R and R
Okay then,
thanks
![Dancing \:D/](./images/smilies/eusa_dance.gif)
![Dancing \:D/](./images/smilies/eusa_dance.gif)
thanks
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1994 AWD GMC Safari, V8 truck van project
1998 2WD Astro
1999 AWD Astro
1994 AWD GMC Safari, V8 truck van project
1998 2WD Astro
1999 AWD Astro
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Re: Subframe/Crossmember R and R
Other things to tackle would be to check out the rear shock, spring hangers and bumper mounts and clean them up. Also, oil the crap out of you brake and fuel lines.
Current:
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
01 AWD - Stock
98 AWD - Stock
Past:
93 4WD - 305 V8 - 5" lift - 31" tires
98 4WD DHC - 10" lift - 33" tires - Onboard air and Hydraulics - Snowplow
92 RWD - 350 V8 - lowered - 97 front clip
92 RWD - 350 V8 - converted to AWD - V6
91 AWD - 350 V8 - conversion van
94 RWD - 350 V8 - sons van
92 RWD - stock - sons van
93 RWD Shorty - project
89 RWD Shorty - parts van
Re: Subframe/Crossmember R and R
OMG!
1998 Astro, 246,000 miles
K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
Draw-Tite Dual Port Hitch System, hitch-mounted bike rack (4), hitch-mounted cargo tray, Thule roof-mounted cargo box
K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
Draw-Tite Dual Port Hitch System, hitch-mounted bike rack (4), hitch-mounted cargo tray, Thule roof-mounted cargo box
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Re: Subframe/Crossmember R and R
Is it common on these vans for the frt sub frame to rust so much?
I just bought a 2000 from ebay and was very disapointed in the rust on the subframe and front suspension. The rest of the under carrige seems normal for an 8 year old 100k mile vehicle.
I just bought a 2000 from ebay and was very disapointed in the rust on the subframe and front suspension. The rest of the under carrige seems normal for an 8 year old 100k mile vehicle.
Dan
2000 LS Astro, fully loaded- the daily driver, 2WD, 3.23
1993 B250 Dodge van, fully custom- the weekend driver 5.2, 3.91
and 3 ATV's
2000 LS Astro, fully loaded- the daily driver, 2WD, 3.23
1993 B250 Dodge van, fully custom- the weekend driver 5.2, 3.91
and 3 ATV's
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Re: Subframe/Crossmember R and R
There are many variables that contribute to rust. How and how often the van is cleaned, if the van is operated on a gravel road it can collect dirt, moisture and salt. If the van pressure washed weekly in poor weather and thoroughly cleaned in the spring, I would think that it wouldn't have much rust at all. Mine actually had undercoat on it at one point in its life but most was not remaining (94, 150K, gravel road with little to no washing except when it rains).
There are spots on the frame that would be almost impossible to clean without removing a lot of parts.
Clear as mud?
There are spots on the frame that would be almost impossible to clean without removing a lot of parts.
Clear as mud?
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1994 AWD GMC Safari, V8 truck van project
1998 2WD Astro
1999 AWD Astro
1994 AWD GMC Safari, V8 truck van project
1998 2WD Astro
1999 AWD Astro
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Re: Subframe/Crossmember R and R
Just for info I bought mine used and I agree it needs a little TLC - really it's just surface rust - but that is what I want to keep it - so it was time to get under it. As for good cleaning - it will be again in the spring but with the crappy stock running boards a guy cannot even get under this thing to wash the bottom. I would so love to remove them - but I need to con the wife into it. I"ll get the back end in spring - thanks for the advise on the leaf mounts and all that. My bottom is undercoated also so the body is doing pretty good - it was just the exposed metal - the rear diff and leafs also need to be protected along with the hitch. Maybe if the weather holds I'll get back under there. Sure wish I had a hoist and access to a media blaster!
2001 Astro LT AWD - SOLD @ 180,200KM
Now I got a 2006 Ford Expedition King Ranch 4 x 4
to pull a Hybrid RV - 2006 Kodiak 235
Calgary, Alberta
Now I got a 2006 Ford Expedition King Ranch 4 x 4
to pull a Hybrid RV - 2006 Kodiak 235
Calgary, Alberta
Re: Subframe/Crossmember R and R
Im glad you tossed those in there jimmajay, love the red dyed concrete too.
I ve got a parts van subframe I want to resto-mod and add a 383 ontop and do a roll out-in conversion.. mabey oneday.
I ve got a parts van subframe I want to resto-mod and add a 383 ontop and do a roll out-in conversion.. mabey oneday.
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Re: Subframe/Crossmember R and R
Save your pennies! You'll need them.
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1994 AWD GMC Safari, V8 truck van project
1998 2WD Astro
1999 AWD Astro
1994 AWD GMC Safari, V8 truck van project
1998 2WD Astro
1999 AWD Astro