Re: ASV Listing in Wikipedia
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:11 am
That is informative.
It was just changed again, minutes ago, and ASV was dropped to the bottom.
edit: This time via a proxy server in Wichita.
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Re: ASV Listing in Wikipedia
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:23 am
Re: ASV Listing in Wikipedia
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:33 am
The listing it supposedly based on how long a site has been up. Of course AS.com went down completely for a while, then came back completely different so in their current incarnation nothing goes back before early 2008 I believe. Of course they have the archive of the old AS.com, but it is a completely different URL.
I am amazed how often this wiki changes in just the external links area. Either moving them around or changing the description of ASV.com.
I am amazed how often this wiki changes in just the external links area. Either moving them around or changing the description of ASV.com.
Re: ASV Listing in Wikipedia
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:51 am
I wouldnt even worry about it..
when I got back online and rejoined AS it didnt take me a week to notice something was up there.. an a week later I found ASV and the place I remembered from when I first got online.
AS is koolaid. not worth your time to stay at it with the link deal. people wont stay there long. they didnt get a chance to ban me, I fugured out something was up with that crew within a week.
havnt been back since.
when I got back online and rejoined AS it didnt take me a week to notice something was up there.. an a week later I found ASV and the place I remembered from when I first got online.
AS is koolaid. not worth your time to stay at it with the link deal. people wont stay there long. they didnt get a chance to ban me, I fugured out something was up with that crew within a week.
havnt been back since.
Re: ASV Listing in Wikipedia
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:16 am
Changed again. I love to wiki notices in the e-mail.
Re: ASV Listing in Wikipedia
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:05 pm
It WAS AstroAustin. He went in and assigned "seniority" ranks. Now, he's getting infantile.
Re: ASV Listing in Wikipedia
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:44 pm
meh as long as the link is there i'm cool
Re: ASV Listing in Wikipedia
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:50 pm
He doesn't even have his dates correct since ASV.com has been around since late 2006 based on the earliest message I could find with just a quick look. It might even be earlier.CaptSquid wrote:It WAS AstroAustin. He went in and assigned "seniority" ranks. Now, he's getting infantile.
Re: ASV Listing in Wikipedia
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:13 am
Do you remember when AS died?
Re: ASV Listing in Wikipedia
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:54 am
Which time? ASV.com was formed quite a bit before the final, complete and total crash as the backup board. Did ASV.com start on the Ikonboard software as well before switching to something more stable? Start could be all the way back to the beginning of 2006 or earlier?CaptSquid wrote:Do you remember when AS died?
Re: ASV Listing in Wikipedia
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:41 am
The old AS.com died for good in December of 2007, then there was a couple months without it.
It doesn't matter to me that both sites are on there. Actually I think the only person that it DOES matter to, is Austin. I can understand his concern or desire to increase traffic at his site, but he's going about it all wrong.
It's just like any business when dealing with competition. You want to get ahead of the competition, you've got to offer up something better than the competition. You don't see Burger King folks vandalising Mcdonalds property do you?
Pretty childish, and it only makes him look bad, but to an new astro owner looking for a good forum, they are none the wiser.
As long as both are listed on the site, they'll seek us, ASV, out.
And that's the reason Austin wants it gone...
It doesn't matter to me that both sites are on there. Actually I think the only person that it DOES matter to, is Austin. I can understand his concern or desire to increase traffic at his site, but he's going about it all wrong.
It's just like any business when dealing with competition. You want to get ahead of the competition, you've got to offer up something better than the competition. You don't see Burger King folks vandalising Mcdonalds property do you?
Pretty childish, and it only makes him look bad, but to an new astro owner looking for a good forum, they are none the wiser.
As long as both are listed on the site, they'll seek us, ASV, out.
And that's the reason Austin wants it gone...
Re: ASV Listing in Wikipedia
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:10 am
What annoys me is AS is listed as "The original home...". That's not true. The original home was the Astro/Safari board at VMag.com. The kid running AS probably didn't have a drivers license when that group first got going. (I know I wasn't one of the first on that board and I bought my van in late '96 and would have found it shortly there after.)
Re: ASV Listing in Wikipedia
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:30 pm
I found out what Rule 6b is:
I've just spent some time thinking. Yeah, I know, I shouldn't do that.
Our site is considered SPAM. The member of AS.com that was deleting our reference in Wikipedia was liberally, but selectively, applying Rule 6b. The question that comes to mind is why just our site? Why not the UK, Japanese or German site as well? After all, they, too, are a similar genre.
Effectively, we're SPAM.6. Spamming
a. Spam is not tolerated here under any circumstance. This includes offering services (charged and free), solicitation, advertisements in posts, irrelevant links, etc. Recruiting members for your own site (moderators, users, club members, etc.) is not permitted and is also considered spam. Users posting spam will be warned and their post removed. See specific item 3rd party site spam for more information. #
b. Members are asked not to disclose any 3rd party site, bulletin board, news feed, forum, blog, or any similar web site. If the post has the only purpose of publicizing a similar genre site or another party, the offending link will be removed. If the user continues to post in the same manner the user will be warned. #
c. The above spam rules, where applicable, also apply to private messaging. Abuse of the private messaging system may lead to warnings (as above) and/or the revocation of private messaging. #
I've just spent some time thinking. Yeah, I know, I shouldn't do that.
Our site is considered SPAM. The member of AS.com that was deleting our reference in Wikipedia was liberally, but selectively, applying Rule 6b. The question that comes to mind is why just our site? Why not the UK, Japanese or German site as well? After all, they, too, are a similar genre.
Re: ASV Listing in Wikipedia
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:57 pm
Why are you wasting time with A.S.??,Boo-Hoo already 
Waste your time here
Waste your time here
Re: ASV Listing in Wikipedia
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:45 pm
Just edited wikipedia - it'll last a day... or less