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I am so Ticked off - Rear Brakes

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:07 pm
by Drooler
Rear brakes making a "I ain't got no shoe left" sound. Bought drums, shoes, grease & hardware kit. Took off right side Wheel & drum - no problem - took off left wheel - can't get drum off. Comes off the axle but is hanging up on brake shoes I guess. Tried slipping skinny screw driver in adjustment hole in backing plate to release self adjusting lock but can barely get at adjusting star and I'm afraid of turning wrong way and getting brakes too tight. OH and to top it off dummy me backed the van into the carport never thinking about every time I hit the brakes it tried to "adjust" them. :cry:

Re: I am so Ticked off - Rear Brakes

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:22 pm
by Kidhauler
Take a grinder to the little posts that hold the shoes back to the backing plate. Then you can just grab the drum and pull like a monkey and the shoes will pull away from the backing plate in one big mess. But since you have a new spring pack anyways you will not need the old studs.

You could probably use a drill to take the studs apart from the back if you don't have a grinder or a dremel. Also if it isn't too late do the ugly side first as you might need to look at the easy to remove side to make sure you have the springs run correctly.

Re: I am so Ticked off - Rear Brakes

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:09 pm
by rlsllc
Kidhauler, that is one of the best methods I've ever heard. Kudos!

Re: I am so Ticked off - Rear Brakes

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:59 pm
by lockdoc
I agree. So simple. Wish I had thought of that in the past. Would have saved me a lot of grief. Not to mention bent backing plates from wedging pry bars between the drum and plate.

Re: I am so Ticked off - Rear Brakes

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:37 am
by ihatemybike
Kidhauler wrote:Take a grinder to the little posts that hold the shoes back to the backing plate. Then you can just grab the drum and pull like a monkey and the shoes will pull away from the backing plate in one big mess.
So simple, so brilliant! Damn, I wish I would have heard this 7 years ago when I was destroying stuff pulling my 1994's brakes apart trying to get it ready in time far a trip down to Florida.

Re: I am so Ticked off - Rear Brakes

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:03 am
by SoCalli V8
Is the adjuster backed off all the way?

Re: I am so Ticked off - Rear Brakes

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:16 pm
by Drooler
SoCalli - no that was the problem I couldn't get the thing to back off. The Pass side came right off but the Drivers side was really hung up.
All - Man that sounded like a good idea but has anyone ever done it? I cannot see how all that metal (brake shoes, connector link, adjuster, etc) is going to get by the axle flange. After pullling the easy side again and looking at it I just could not see that working.
I chickened out and took it to a shop today. They said it woud be easy to just back off the adjuster - when I picked it up they said they had a hard time getting the adjuster back - so I dont feel quite so much like a failure.
but really thanks for the suggestions - and I figure that a hammer and cold chisle could shear those heads off - so I'm thinking to hit my friendly you pull it place, tighten down an adjuster, shear those heads off and give it a try :yikes: better have a disaster in a junk yard than my front yard.....
Thanks again all

Re: I am so Ticked off - Rear Brakes

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:19 pm
by lockdoc
Now that I think of it have pulled the whole shebang off before. My 56 Cheby had the front shoes rusted permanently. I eventually pulled the whole assembly off. That was gorilla warfare though. Never thought of it afterwords.

Re: I am so Ticked off - Rear Brakes

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:52 pm
by kings-x59
man I'm glad I don't live in rock salt country...or it's southern alternate, FL.
If you turn the adjustment star the wrong way, you'll know in short order as it won't turn anymore. Turn it the other way then. The drums will rust onto the axle hub, a few raps from a good 22 oz framing hammer will take care of that. A spare pair of hands to cover your ears are handy, just don't warn your assistant before hand.... :D

Re: I am so Ticked off - Rear Brakes

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:37 pm
by Kidhauler
I had one of the studs break off on my old truck I bought when I was 16. When I pulled the drum the one shoe came with it and all the springs went shooting everywhere. Sure made my first ever brake job more difficult.

Re: I am so Ticked off - Rear Brakes

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:09 pm
by SoCalli V8
To back off the adjuster, you have to push out the adjusting arm (from the stepped wheel) and turn the adjuster in the right direction.