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HVAC question
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:48 pm
by Cobra
ok so i know there are some of you in the heating and ac business here so here goes.
I've got a hot water heating system in my home and one of my pumps decided to give up the ghost (not sure if it's the motor or the pump itself yet) anyways i was wondering what the new good stuff out there that i can upgrade to these pumps and motors are from the 50's
HMB
Cobra
Re: HVAC question
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:04 pm
by peter
Not much you can do here, bud. A new motor will have a higher efficiency rating. But at 1/4 or 1/3 hp, the savings will be minimal.
In general, hot water systems aren't that popular anymore. True, they don't dry a house out like a warm air system. But you can't use the same system to cool your home in the summer. Not efficiently, anyways.
Change the damn motor/pump and get on with your life, sonny boy. You ain't gonna make any post-millenium strides in technology here...
Re: HVAC question
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:37 pm
by Cobra
is there any newer design pump assembles i can go hunting for these things are ancient. if my pump did seize i'll need to replace it even getting the one i have will probably not be easy so if i can find something better i might as well it did the job for the most part tho till it melted one of the control boards.... twice (we are now using that pump on a old relay assemble) i'mma post a pic just to show you what i mean by old
Re: HVAC question
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:58 am
by peter
Can't help ya, bud. We don't do water-boilers etc... There may be improved technology out there, true. But I'm assuming your pump fits into a housing already plumbed into the line somewhere. Changing pump type would also entail cutting out the old housing re-plumbing etc.... And all for what?
If you have no choice, then you have no choice. But if it was for myself, I'd do a few Hail Mary's and hope to hell I could find a bolt-in replacement :-k
Re: HVAC question
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:41 pm
by LiftedAWDAstro
Petey...
Don't you mean you would have one of your technicians bolt in the replacement?
Re: HVAC question
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:24 pm
by dunedog
Now Dean that was uncalled for
(funny as hell though)
Re: HVAC question
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:55 pm
by Cobra
holy crap while i was down there today i found a brand new pump still wrapped in plastic i hope the motor is ok and the pump kicked the bucket (i doubt it tho) so this is what i'll be working on
and this is what the new motor did to the replacement relays
apparently the new relays are too weak......
Re: HVAC question
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:57 pm
by dunedog
Make sure it's not just the little springs in the pump section that haven't given up the ghost.......
Re: HVAC question
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:43 am
by Cobra
yeah last time we had to work on the pumps that's what it was hopefully i can work on it tonight after i work on the truck
Re: HVAC question
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:43 pm
by peter
Keep us posted. Oh, and Dean? Kiss my increasingly-hairy arse
Re: HVAC question
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:14 pm
by LiftedAWDAstro
peter wrote:Oh, and Dean? Kiss my increasingly-hairy arse
Shave that knarly, knotty, dreadlock covered arse and I will.
Re: HVAC question
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:28 pm
by GEJ
hummm-Deano,I thought electricians had apprentices doing all their work.
Re: HVAC question
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:00 pm
by LiftedAWDAstro
Apprentice? What's that? We don't have have apprentices...I am the junior electrician on shift.
Re: HVAC question
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:06 pm
by Rileysowner
The house I live in has a hot-water heating system as well. Pump died a couple of years back, and it was replaced with a new one. The only advantage I found it the newer ones are MUCH smaller, and quieter. Other than that, no change.
Re: HVAC question
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:00 am
by Cobra
Post resurrection time I have a lot of question about this system since i know nothing about it and have to do all the work on it
what is this box called i never replaced it just hooked my pumps and thermostats up to the one remaining one (which seems to be holding out fine). It has the thermostats, pumps and boiler hooked up to it and switches them on and off.
Also what direction are these pumps supposed to be pumping I would think they would be forcing the heated water from the boiler up into the building but mine have been confirmed to be pulling the cooled water down and forcing it into the boiler is that normal? what i previous believed to be my return lines merge as soon as the enter the basement on route to the boiler , what i believed to be the supply lines split as soon as they come out of the boiler and the pumps are on the two separate lines (one for each level) but now that the flow is the opposite of what i had thought it doesn't seem as efficient for separately controlling the two zones